# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7081 "2018-05-05T03:32:00Z")

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I dunno. It would help a triage nurse get the people who deserve to be treated seen faster.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7082 "2018-05-05T05:34:37Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I dunno. It would help a triage nurse get the people who deserve to be treated seen faster.

I’m not sure what you are replying to. As an actual triage nurse I’m interested.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7083 "2018-05-05T05:52:40Z")

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Yeah, I’m curious about that too. It scans as if he’s saying hiring bigots would help to make sure people who deserve treatment first got it.

dropzone? You want to clarify that?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7084 "2018-05-05T07:45:21Z")

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Looks to me like a particularly apposite example of Poe’s Law in action.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7085 "2018-05-05T08:18:00Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Looks to me like a particularly apposite example of Poe’s Law in action.

Me, too. The idea that one race deserves priority medical care than another is so ridiculous that it comes off as snark against racists. Sorta like “Sure, we’ll hire racists. After all, only white people deserve to have their computers fixed!”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7086 "2018-05-05T09:13:40Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Me, too. The idea that one race deserves priority medical care than another is so ridiculous that it comes off as snark against racists. Sorta like “Sure, we’ll hire racists. After all, only white people deserve to have their computers fixed!”

Or one sexual orientation/gender group.

That said, below the level of policy-setting personnel, I’m more comfortable letting an anti-bigotry policy be used to weed them out after hiring than with trying to screen them out in the hiring process. Too much potential for subjective judgements to unfairly screen out a false positive.

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**Author:** ![TallPoppy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@TallPoppy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TallPoppy)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7087 "2018-05-05T11:43:35Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> …Disingenuous Dumbass #34, i.e. Yet Another Trump Voter.

Your comment reminds me of a person who makes blanket assumptions and is intolerant of people holding different opinions–Bigot.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7088 "2018-05-05T11:53:45Z")

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> [@TallPoppy](#):
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> Your comment reminds me of a person who makes blanket assumptions and is intolerant of people holding different opinions–Bigot.

And I don’t take you or your comments seriously, because you’ve given me no reasons to. You had your chance but now you’re just wallowing in stupidity, and what stupid people are reminded of or reminded by is of no interest to me–Putz.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7089 "2018-07-15T13:06:58Z")

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(Wow, it’s been over two months since we had a stupid liberal idea of the day.)

Anyway, I’m bumping this thread to announce a change in my Party affiliation. I used to describe myself as “Centrist leaning toward Democratic Party.” Now I prefer “Centrist leaning toward Sanity.”

The final straw came in an IMHO thread where the OP of the poster (presumably “Liberal”) called for taxpayer-funded sex robots. I didn’t notice the usual swarm of liberals ranting their support, but that’s only because “incels” are not _yet_ regarded as a disadvantaged class. (In another thread I think the liberals were ready to pass laws compelling restaurants to stock plastic straws.)

I don’t blame that Doper for wanting taxpayers to buy him a sex robot. Buy me a Ferrari while you’re at it! And I’m sure that, “if ♫ civilization’s still alive ♫” in some 22nd- or 23rd-century dystopia, sex robots will be the norm. I’m not claiming that taxpayer-funded sex robots are already a plank in the Democratic Party platform, but I’m going to cite it forevermore as a _reductio ad absurdem_ of the “progressive” agenda.

Some Americans visualize Americans as the people that tamed the Wild West, that rescued the people of France in 1944, and that placed a Man on the Moon. This view of the American spirit is incompatible with the whinings we often hear from the left; and they push conservative voters into the arms of people like Donald Trump.

I hope I’m wrong. I’d love to see Nancy Pelosi sworn in as Speaker of the House next January, and Patrick Leahy as President pro tempore of the Senate.

But if that does not happen, consider this post to be “I told you so, and told you why.”

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7090 "2018-07-15T13:31:03Z")

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A question, if I may, and a follow-up:

What are you smoking?

Are you _sure_ you trust your source?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7091 "2018-07-15T14:09:04Z")

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I usually associate the Incel movement with the MRA / red pill bullshit, which aligns with the Alt-Right and white guys are the real victims of discrimination, it’s awful that people are bigoted against bigots crap.

Even though you didn’t post any links, I’m assuming that the poster that made you change your political affiliation is **Blalron**.  
[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21080611&postcount=1](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21080611&postcount=1)

In looking through some of his recent posts I see that he seems to be in favor of outlawing “discrimination” based on political affiliation

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21049167&postcount=29](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21049167&postcount=29)

and requiring every citizen to carry a national ID card.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21048413&postcount=](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21048413&postcount=)

And his posts in this thread are anything but progressive,

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20954446#post20954446](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20954446#post20954446)

So I really don’t see where you’re coming from. I agree that the “free sex robots for incels” is perhaps the dumbest idea for a taxpayer funded program that I’ve ever heard but just because it involves the government giving people stuff, that doesn’t mean it’s liberal. I see it as more of a “the government gives minorities free food but they won’t give the suffering white dudes free sex robots -discrimination! idea”.

Which is really a stupid conservative idea.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7092 "2018-07-15T14:24:36Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I usually associate the Incel movement with the MRA / red pill bullshit, which aligns with the Alt-Right and white guys are the real victims of discrimination, it’s awful that people are bigoted against bigots crap…  
> In looking through some of his recent posts I see that he seems to be in favor of outlawing “discrimination” based on political affiliation
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> …So I really don’t see where you’re coming from. I agree that the “free sex robots for incels” is perhaps the dumbest idea for a taxpayer funded program that I’ve ever heard but just because it involves the government giving people stuff, that doesn’t mean it’s liberal…

I sit corrected.

Now I wonder if **Blalron** is being disingenuous, with his calls for taxpayer-funded sex robots, trying to make the same stupid _reductio ad absurdem_ I did. If not, I need to compose a rant for a Stupid Right-wingers thread. But is it remotely credible that even the most despicable right-winger would feel entitled to a free sex robot while gloating about poor Americans without healthcare?

In the olden days I’d now be certain **Blalron** ’s was all a parody, an audition for [TheOnion.Com](http://TheOnion.Com). But now … I wonder.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7093 "2018-07-15T20:10:07Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I noticed in that link that there’s a reference to a Jordan Sekulow. Wonder if there’s a connection to Jay Sekulow, Trump’s lawyer. Doesn’t seem like it would be a very common name.

It’s not a secret that Jay Sekulow’s son Jordan _also_ works at the American Center for Law and Justice.

> **[Jordan Sekulow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Sekulow)**
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> Jordan Sekulow (born July 14, 1982) is an American lawyer, radio talk show host, former Washington Post blogger, political consultant, and author.
> A veteran of three presidential campaigns, Sekulow is the executive director at the American Center for Law & Justice, a conservative international public interest law firm and watchdog group founded by his father, Jay Sekulow.
> Sekulow graduated from George Washington University, receiving a bachelor's degree in political science. While there, he wa...

> **[Jay Sekulow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Sekulow)**
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> Jay Alan Sekulow (/ˈsɛkjəˌloʊ/; born June 10, 1956) is an American lawyer, radio, television talk show host and politically conservative media personality. He has been chief counsel of the American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ) since 1991. As a member of President Donald Trump's legal team, he served as lead outside counsel for Trump's first impeachment trial in the United States Senate.
> Sekulow built a legal and media business over a thirty-year period by representing conservative, religious,...

> **[American Center for Law & Justice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Center_for_Law_%26_Justice)**
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> The American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ) is a politically conservative, Christian-based legal organization in the United States. It is headquartered in Washington, D.C., and associated with Regent University School of Law in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
> The ACLJ was founded in 1990 by law school graduate and evangelical minister Pat Robertson with the stated "mandate to protect religious and constitutional freedoms". ACLJ generally pursues constitutional issues and conservative Christian ideals...

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7094 "2018-09-05T20:55:10Z")

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Occasionally, liberals do say stupid things. Like the claim that the woman sitting behind Kavanaugh was flashing white power signs. It looks to me like she’s picking her cuticles.

> **[US attorney defends wife after ‘white power’ sign accusations - The Boston Globe](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/05/did-wife-attorney-flash-white-power-sign-says-adl/lKcI7vCSd270OrLNyqvwMO/story.html)**
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> Zina Gelman Bash, a former White House staffer, made what looked like an “OK” gesture with her hand during Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination hearing.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7095 "2018-09-05T21:25:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Occasionally, liberals do say stupid things. Like the claim that the woman sitting behind Kavanaugh was flashing white power signs. It looks to me like she’s picking her cuticles.  
> [https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/05/did-wife-attorney-flash-white-power-sign-says-adl/lKcI7vCSd270OrLNyqvwMO/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/05/did-wife-attorney-flash-white-power-sign-says-adl/lKcI7vCSd270OrLNyqvwMO/story.html)

Not sure what she’s doing but [her thumb ain’t moving](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnUmgjqFSW8).

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7096 "2018-09-05T21:27:54Z")

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The Boston Globe shut me down because my browser was in incognito mode or something, but I saw it here  
[https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/conspiracy-about-woman-at-kavanaugh-hearing-rages-online/](https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/conspiracy-about-woman-at-kavanaugh-hearing-rages-online/)  
and it looks to me just like that fuckin frog “ok” sign bullshit. Looks like it, that’s all. But I can see why “some are saying…”

PS: Lets hear it for stupid liberal ideas and the sheer volume of reports of them. Not sure my number of posts to show per page, but the post at the top of this page for me came in April!

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7097 "2018-09-06T13:23:13Z")

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Looks to me that she was playing that game where if the person looks at her fingers, she gets to punch them in the arm.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7098 "2018-09-07T12:59:38Z")

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The rise of the DSA is probably going to give us some better material to work with in this thread. We can start with Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders proposing a BEZOS act, which taxes big companies if their employees receive welfare benefits.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7099 "2018-09-07T13:22:50Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> The rise of the DSA is probably going to give us some better material to work with in this thread. We can start with Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders proposing a BEZOS act, which taxes big companies if their employees receive welfare benefits.

Ok, care to elaborate why that’s stupid? I’d prefer we mandate a living wage, but stopping companies from paying their workers so little that they need social welfare programs to get by seems like a good idea to me.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7100 "2018-09-07T13:34:20Z")

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I kinda agree with the notion that the name of the bill at the very least is stupid af.

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