# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 362
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7221 "2018-12-11T17:32:42Z")
This morning, a few dozen former senators co-signed an op-ed that was mostly a bunch of unspecific pablum, but at this time, is clearly a plea to the Senate to take the Mueller investigation seriously and to put partisanship aside when looking at the allegations that Trump broke several laws. > **[Opinion | We are former senators. The Senate has long stood in defense of...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-are-former-senators-the-senate-has-long-stood-in-defense-of-democracy--and-must-again/2018/12/10/3adfbdea-fca1-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html)** > > We are at an inflection point in which the foundational principles of our democracy and our national security interests are at stake. I have no problem with that message. I mean, who would, other than the most brain-dead partisans? Well, the infamous Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez found something to whine about: the men (and like two women) didn’t declare whether they were currently working as a lobbyist. > > > Shane Goldmacher @ShaneGoldmacher Jesus Fucking Christ, can you not read for context? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7222 "2018-12-11T19:37:54Z")
infamous? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7223 "2018-12-11T19:49:35Z")
It means “MORE than famous” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7224 "2018-12-11T19:50:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > infamous? For being a cartoonish millennial. There really ought to be a sitcom that follows the travails of a member of Congress who has to balance complex policy matters while not letting a good social media clap-back opportunity pass by. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7225 "2018-12-11T20:11:45Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > It means “MORE than famous” I bet Ravenman was offered 100,000 Pesos to do something about her. Maybe put on a show. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7226 "2018-12-11T20:15:53Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > I bet Ravenman was offered 100,000 Pesos to do something about her. Maybe put on a show. Would you say that is a plethora of pesos? ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7227 "2018-12-11T20:16:47Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Would you say that is a plethora of pesos? A what? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7228 "2018-12-11T20:18:00Z")
A plethora. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7229 "2018-12-11T20:20:00Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > A plethora. Oh yes. Yes a plethora. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7230 "2018-12-11T20:26:25Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > Oh yes. Yes a plethora. **AngelSoft** , what IS a plethora? ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7231 "2018-12-11T20:28:41Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > **AngelSoft** , what IS a plethora? …Why manson1972? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7232 "2018-12-11T20:36:08Z")
I don’t want to find out that a person who told me it was a plethora of pesos had no idea what it means to have a plethora. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7233 "2018-12-11T20:40:45Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > the infamous Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez found something to whine about: the men (and like two women) didn’t declare whether they were currently working as a lobbyist. She was responding to someone else who raised that issue. From your link: > [@Shane Goldmacher tweeted:](#): > > Curious: Has anyone looked up how many of these former senators are lobbyists or work for lobbying firms? > [@AOC responded:](#): > > Love that we are now asking this question more regularly. Disclosing who the lobbyists are in the conversation should be a standard first step in _any_ policy discussion. Amazing that it hasn’t been a more clearly defined, regular practice everywhere. It’s a tangential issue, sure, but it’s a pet issue of hers, and I don’t think she was dismissing the op-ed by saying it’s a question that should be asked more regularly. (To be clear what the issue is: newspapers do run op-eds by people who are paid lobbyists without requiring disclosure. There was an example the other day that I’ve forgotten the details of [stupid liberal!]) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7234 "2018-12-11T20:43:08Z")
More proof that AOC is the new HRC. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7235 "2018-12-11T20:43:46Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I don’t want to find out that a person who told me it was a plethora of pesos had no idea what it means to have a plethora. I know that I, Angelsoft, do not have your superior intellect and education…but could it be that, once again, you are angry at something else? And are looking to take it out on me? Perhaps the ravings of a gringo? Or three? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7236 "2018-12-11T20:51:09Z")
Perhaps. 🙂 (Can’t describe the actual head nod used in the movie) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7237 "2018-12-11T20:57:43Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > I bet Ravenman was offered 100,000 Pesos to do something about her. Maybe put on a show. Are you accusing me of being the donkey or the, ah, performer? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7238 "2018-12-11T20:59:50Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > More proof that AOC is the new HRC. HRC has made mistakes, but I think she is a very, very intelligent and capable person. She’s very formidable. I think AOC fits in well with the current political climate, which rewards attention more than competence. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7239 "2018-12-11T21:01:13Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Are you accusing me of being the donkey or the, ah, performer? Either would be quite impressive. The donkey for your ability to type with hooves and the performer for being, well…so enamored…with donkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7240 "2018-12-11T21:03:44Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > More proof that AOC is the new HRC. I think she’s more HRC-in-waiting. Liz Warren is going to bear the brunt of Individual One’s barbed and juvenile humor right up until someone else is nominated. And then beats the pants off Donnie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=361) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=363)