# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 363
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7241 "2018-12-11T21:14:20Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > Either would be quite impressive. The donkey for your ability to type with hooves and the performer for being, well…so enamored…with donkeys. Let me assure you, that whatever I do, I don’t do for the money. 😉 And let me assure you that I have no fucking idea how we got on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7242 "2018-12-11T21:17:47Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Would you say that is a plethora of pesos? > [@AngelSoft](#): > > A what? > [@Slash1972](#): > > A plethora. > [@AngelSoft](#): > > Oh yes. Yes a plethora. > [@Slash1972](#): > > **AngelSoft** , what IS a plethora? [“I have a plethora of loquacious bees.”](https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2016/09/25) ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7243 "2018-12-11T21:18:16Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > More proof that AOC is the new HRC. AOC and HRC are totally different. HRC was a competent, knowledgeable person - so much so that she probably turned away some voters by seeming too cold, elite, know-everything and aloof. AOC is the opposite. Someone who connects very well with her voter base, comes across as personable, very relateable (to Millennials,) but just blurts whatever is on her mind, is irresponsible and ignorant, and allows her confirmation bias, misconceptions etc. to rule her Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7244 "2018-12-11T21:18:23Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And let me assure you that I have no fucking idea how we got on this subject. It’s your fault for using “infamous” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7245 "2018-12-11T21:44:13Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > AOC is the opposite. Someone who connects very well with her voter base, comes across as personable, very relateable (to Millennials,) but just blurts whatever is on her mind, is irresponsible and ignorant, and allows her confirmation bias, misconceptions etc. to rule her Twitter. So…she’s Trump with a sex change, race lift, a few gallons of Oil of Olay, less weight and less power? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7246 "2018-12-11T22:52:48Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > She was responding to someone else who raised that issue. From your link: > > It’s a tangential issue, sure, but it’s a pet issue of hers, and I don’t think she was dismissing the op-ed by saying it’s a question that should be asked more regularly. > (To be clear what the issue is: newspapers do run op-eds by people who are paid lobbyists without requiring disclosure. There was an example the other day that I’ve forgotten the details of [stupid liberal!]) She has also been commenting on how all of the speakers who have been brought in to speak to the incoming freshman members of Congress are every one of them lobbyists. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7247 "2018-12-11T22:57:14Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > HRC has made mistakes, but I think she is a very, very intelligent and capable person. She’s very formidable. I think AOC fits in well with the current political climate, which rewards attention more than competence. Aexandria Ocasio-Cortez, as a high school student, won second prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project. As a result, an asteroid was named for her. She was an intern in Teddy Kennedy’s office. She graduated cum laude from Boston University’s College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor’s degree in international relations and a minor in economics. Provide any proof that she has been less than competent. Let’s wait and see how she performs in Congress, where she hasn’t even started working yet, shall we? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7248 "2018-12-11T22:58:14Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > AOC and HRC are totally different. HRC was a competent, knowledgeable person - so much so that she probably turned away some voters by seeming too cold, elite, know-everything and aloof. AOC is the opposite. Someone who connects very well with her voter base, comes across as personable, very relateable (to Millennials,) but just blurts whatever is on her mind, is irresponsible and ignorant, and allows her confirmation bias, misconceptions etc. to rule her Twitter. ignorant? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7249 "2018-12-11T23:41:14Z")
AOC and Trump can both be impulsive when it comes to Twitter, but the similarities end there. AOC, is sincere. Trump is just a con man. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7250 "2018-12-12T06:44:57Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Aexandria Ocasio-Cortez, as a high school student, won second prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project. As a result, an asteroid was named for her. She was an intern in Teddy Kennedy’s office. She graduated cum laude from Boston University’s College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor’s degree in international relations and a minor in economics. > > Provide any proof that she has been less than competent. Let’s wait and see how she performs in Congress, where she hasn’t even started working yet, shall we? > :dubious: Well, there you have it! Microbiology, astrophysics, international relations and economics, she can’t seem to make up her mind! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7251 "2018-12-12T10:31:00Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > She was responding to someone else who raised that issue. From your link: > > It’s a tangential issue, sure, but it’s a pet issue of hers, and I don’t think she was dismissing the op-ed by saying it’s a question that should be asked more regularly. > (To be clear what the issue is: newspapers do run op-eds by people who are paid lobbyists without requiring disclosure. There was an example the other day that I’ve forgotten the details of [stupid liberal!]) It’s funny how many people have drifted right past your rather pertinent post, possibly because it interferes with the preferred narrative of “AOC is just a stupid shallow Millennial more interested in social media than effecting any change. She probably eats Tide pods, hur hur.” Yes, she makes rookie mistakes. Because she’s a rookie. OTOH a lot of the criticism of her appears to be based on a strawman (or strawwoman) version of her rather than her own mistakes and foibles. And she hasn’t even taken office yet. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7252 "2018-12-12T10:43:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s funny how many people have drifted right past your rather pertinent post, possibly because it interferes with the preferred narrative of “AOC is just a stupid shallow Millennial more interested in social media than effecting any change. She probably eats Tide pods, hur hur.” > > Yes, she makes rookie mistakes. Because she’s a rookie. OTOH a lot of the criticism of her appears to be based on a strawman (or strawwoman) version of her rather than her own mistakes and foibles. And she hasn’t even taken office yet. It’s all pretty much starting a smear job, as was done with Hillary Clinton, on the chance that she’ll be a power player in the future. A few decades of Dacien, _et al_ repeating bullshit will make it that much harder for her to be elected to higher office. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7253 "2018-12-12T10:50:26Z")
And by the way, **manson1972** and **AngelSoft** : we see what you did there. Stop it now, or you will die like dogs. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7254 "2018-12-12T11:49:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Provide any proof that she has been less than competent. Her tweets consistently show that she has a very loose grasp on facts when it is convenient for her political opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7255 "2018-12-12T11:58:38Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Her tweets consistently show that she has a very loose grasp on facts when it is convenient for her political opinions. Possibly, although most of the examples of this I’ve seen have involved people deliberately taking statements of broad principle and pretending they’re intended as detailed policy statements. As I said: lots of strawwomaning going on. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7256 "2018-12-12T12:49:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Possibly, although most of the examples of this I’ve seen have involved people deliberately taking statements of broad principle and pretending they’re intended as detailed policy statements. > > As I said: lots of strawwomaning going on. Wait - you think unfactual things are just “broad statements of principle?” You should look in the mirror. Trump supporters dismiss lies by saying Trump should be taken seriously and not literally. Now you’re applying the same bullshit standard to a politician you happen to agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7257 "2018-12-12T13:19:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And by the way, **manson1972** and **AngelSoft** : we see what you did there. Stop it now, or you will die like dogs. NO! We will not die like dogs! We will post like lions! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7258 "2018-12-12T14:14:06Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Wait - you think unfactual things are just “broad statements of principle?” > > You should look in the mirror. Trump supporters dismiss lies by saying Trump should be taken seriously and not literally. Now you’re applying the same bullshit standard to a politician you happen to agree with. Or, as an alternative, you could read what I actually said. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7259 "2018-12-12T15:14:58Z")
There are now migrants who are demanding that the U.S. government pay them $50,000 apiece to go home, or let them into America. > **[Migrant groups march to U.S. consulate in Tijuana demanding reparations](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sd-me-migrant-demands-12122018-story.html)** > > Two groups of Central American migrants made separate marches on the U.S. Not that the U.S. government would likely ever do so, but if they pay the Danegeld they’ll never get rid of the Dane - because there’d suddenly be a massive uptick in people arriving at the border wanting their $50,000, too, if so. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7260 "2018-12-12T15:28:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Or, as an alternative, you could read what I actually said. Wow, you’re as bad as AOC. (I realize you may take that as a compliment.) When she said that the military is sitting on trillions of dollars that could be used to pay for Medicare for All, did you view that as a false statement, or a “statement of principle?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=362) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=364)