# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 370
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7381 "2020-02-10T13:49:04Z")
Surprised this wasn’t mentioned: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-jokingly-calls-new-hampshire-voter-lying-dog-faced-pony-n1133246](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-jokingly-calls-new-hampshire-voter-lying-dog-faced-pony-n1133246) > [@](#): > > At a campaign event in New Hampshire, the woman warned Biden that she was about to ask a potentially mean question before saying, “How do you explain the performance in Iowa, and why should voters believe that you can win the national election?” > > Biden said the question was legitimate but then asked whether she had “ever been to a caucus” before. > > She signaled that she had, to which Biden said: “No, you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier.” The audience laughed in response. Now maybe the tone of both the question and answer was such that it more a naturally humorous situation, but Jeez, Joe, your campaign is already is some trouble, you don’t need to be handing out gratuitous insults to voters and giving your opponents any additional ammunition to question your judgement. Not if you want to beat the real lying dog-faced non-pony soldier… IMHO as always. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7382 "2020-02-10T14:10:38Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Surprised this wasn’t mentioned: [Biden jokingly calls voter a 'lying dog-faced pony soldier' at New Hampshire event](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-jokingly-calls-new-hampshire-voter-lying-dog-faced-pony-n1133246) > > Now maybe the tone of both the question and answer was such that it more a naturally humorous situation, but Jeez, Joe, your campaign is already is some trouble, you don’t need to be handing out gratuitous insults to voters and giving your opponents any additional ammunition to question your judgement. > > Not if you want to beat the real lying dog-faced non-pony soldier… > > IMHO as always. YMMV. Good lord. The article says the “pony soldier” line is supposed to be a reference to an old John Wayne movie, but no one knows what movie. Way to keep your finger on the pulse of today’s culture, Joe! In spite of his myriad flaws, I think Biden is a generally likable guy. But shit like this… man. Still, if he gets the nomination, I’m voting for him. To my knowledge he isn’t in cahoots with any foreign powers, and he probably wouldn’t set up concentration camps, so he’s better than Trump. Get it together, Joe. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7383 "2020-02-10T14:27:12Z")
So Biden is not only insulting people for no real reason, he’s sounding like Abe Simpson doing it. Now I want to ask him if he used to wear an onion on his belt and whether he plans to remove three states if elected. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7384 "2020-02-10T16:52:47Z")
Biden also said he’d have a real good vice president in case he dies. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of himself. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7385 "2020-02-10T17:10:33Z")
Is a “pony soldier” anything like a “ponygirl?” > **[ponygirl - Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ponygirl)** (May be NSFW, although there’s no real detail in the photo. If your boss is Mormon, don’t.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7386 "2020-02-10T17:50:32Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Good lord. The article says the “pony soldier” line is supposed to be a reference to an old John Wayne movie, but no one knows what movie. I’m guessing [this one](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052902/reference). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7387 "2020-02-10T17:58:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > So Biden is not only insulting people for no real reason, he’s sounding like Abe Simpson doing it. He’s the [dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17509242&postcount=677) of politics. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7388 "2020-02-10T18:03:13Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Good lord. The article says the “pony soldier” line is supposed to be a reference to an old John Wayne movie, but no one knows what movie. Way to keep your finger on the pulse of today’s culture, Joe! Got this from [https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/whence-a-lyin-dog-faced-pony-soldier.php:](https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/whence-a-lyin-dog-faced-pony-soldier.php:) > [@](#): > > Biden has used the line before and Reuters reported that he’s said it’s a reference to the 1953 John Wayne movie “Hondo.” A search of the script revealed a few references to pony soldiers and lying, but not together nor with the dog-faced portion. > > ``` > Some on social media suggested Biden may have been referencing “Pony Soldier,” a 1952 film that starred Tyrone Power and not John Wayne. However, according to Slate, the line as Biden used it never appeared in that film either. > > ``` > [@](#): > > In spite of his myriad flaws, I think Biden is a generally likable guy. But shit like this… man. Still, if he gets the nomination, I’m voting for him. To my knowledge he isn’t in cahoots with any foreign powers, and he probably wouldn’t set up concentration camps, so he’s better than Trump. Get it together, Joe. Same here, but Lord don’t make it harder than it’s going to be, Joe. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7389 "2020-02-10T18:33:43Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > With the caveat that it hasn’t been proven to be politically motivated yet, I wanted to make note of this. A guy in Florida drove his truck into a tent where Trump supporters were holding a voter registration drive. The driver then filmed himself flipping off the volunteers. Luckily no o e was hurt. > > Again, no motive has been established, and maybe this guy is just a garden variety sociopath. But, since its at least a strong possibility, and since participation on this thread is anemic, here ya go. Whatever the motive, fuck this guy. I hope he is punished to the full extent of the law. > > [Man accused of driving through Republican voter registration tent arrested](https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/02/08/police-van-drives-through-republican-partys-voter-registration-tent/) The big difference is that Trump _preaches_ hatred. He ran on it. He glories in it. That’s his message. You can’t show any equivalent anywhere on the Dem side. Not even close. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7390 "2020-02-10T19:23:09Z")
> [@margin](#): > > The big difference is that Trump _preaches_ hatred. He ran on it. He glories in it. That’s his message. > > You can’t show any equivalent anywhere on the Dem side. Not even close. And the power structure is now openly threatening their own people who refused to suck Trump’s cock. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22130883&postcount=43505](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22130883&postcount=43505) [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kellyanne-conway-says-more-officials-may-be-ousted-after-trumps-senate-acquittal/ar-BBZQQgO](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kellyanne-conway-says-more-officials-may-be-ousted-after-trumps-senate-acquittal/ar-BBZQQgO) ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7391 "2020-02-10T20:23:11Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Good lord. The article says the “pony soldier” line is supposed to be a reference to an old John Wayne movie, but no one knows what movie. Way to keep your finger on the pulse of today’s culture, Joe! > > In spite of his myriad flaws, I think Biden is a generally likable guy. But shit like this… man. Still, if he gets the nomination, I’m voting for him. To my knowledge he isn’t in cahoots with any foreign powers, and he probably wouldn’t set up concentration camps, so he’s better than Trump. Get it together, Joe. What a strange thing to say, even if it is a “joke”. I’ve been to a presidential caucus and I’ve never lived in Iowa nor Nevada. Is there some “mark of the beast” that I’m sporting that is only visible to presidential candidates? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7392 "2020-02-10T20:41:48Z")
> [@margin](#): > > The big difference is that Trump _preaches_ hatred. He ran on it. He glories in it. That’s his message. > > You can’t show any equivalent anywhere on the Dem side. Not even close. I absolutely agree. I wasn’t trying to draw an equivalence, just cataloging a stupid liberal (unconfirmed but looks that way), as this is the place for that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7393 "2020-02-11T10:25:02Z")
I think we’re all in agreement that the guy who drove through the tent is a stupid asshole, liberal or not. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7394 "2020-02-11T23:32:34Z")
The guy who drove into the Trump volunteer tent reportedly admitted to police that he did it because he didn’t like Trump. The reports I’ve seen don’t go into more detail, only saying Gregory Timm didn’t like Trump. I suppose it’s _possible_ that Timm thinks Trump isn’t right wing enough, but I’m gonna guess he leans to the other end of the political spectrum. > **[Report: Man tells police he targeted Trump campaign volunteers because he...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/11/politics/police-report-trump-campaign-volunteers/index.html?__twitter_impression=true)** > > The man who police say drove a van through a tent in a Walmart parking lot on Saturday in Jacksonville, Florida, where Trump campaign volunteers were gathered told officers he doesn't like President Donald Trump, according to newly surfaced redacted... ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7395 "2020-02-12T00:29:05Z")
FWIW, [Gregory Timm looks like he should be wearing a swastika armband.](https://img.particlenews.com/image.php?type=thumbnail_800x600&url=0MJAeZ_0O6D8mMI00) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7396 "2020-02-12T00:37:43Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > The guy who drove into the Trump volunteer tent reportedly admitted to police that he did it because he didn’t like Trump. The reports I’ve seen don’t go into more detail, only saying Gregory Timm didn’t like Trump. I suppose it’s _possible_ that Timm thinks Trump isn’t right wing enough, but I’m gonna guess he leans to the other end of the political spectrum. > > [Report: Man tells police he targeted Trump campaign volunteers because he does not like the President - CNNPolitics](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/11/politics/police-report-trump-campaign-volunteers/index.html?__twitter_impression=true) At this moment in time, there is no evidence whatsoever that he leans towards any portion of the political spectrum. He did say he hates Trump though, so there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7397 "2020-02-12T01:32:40Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > FWIW, [Gregory Timm looks like he should be wearing a swastika armband.](https://img.particlenews.com/image.php?type=thumbnail_800x600&url=0MJAeZ_0O6D8mMI00) I did notice the fashy haircut and overall look of the guy, but I was on the fence between “Nazi” and “hipster”. Gun to my head, I’d still guess liberal, but white supremacist is still a distinct possibility. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7398 "2020-02-12T01:50:31Z")
> [@](#): > > CHICAGO (WBBM NEWSRADIO) – A state lawmaker from Chicago has proposed going back to a time when gas stations had attendants on hand to pump your fuel. > > State Rep. Camille Lilly filed the Gas Station Attendant Act last week. The measure says no gas may be pumped at a gas station in Illinois unless it is pumped by an attendant. > [@](#): > > Lilly’s chief of staff, Alexis Reed, said the measure came out of discussions with the lawmaker’s constituents and their concerns about the high unemployment rate on the West Side. I’m all for employment but inventing unnecessary jobs seems like a pretty bad way to go about it. > **[Lawmaker Pushes Bill To Resurrect Gas-Station Attendants](https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/articles/lawmaker-pushes-bill-to-resurrect-gas-station-attendants)** > > The measure is seen by its sponsor as a way to combat unemployment. Ok - maybe not strictly a liberal idea but it seems to fit… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7399 "2020-02-12T01:55:57Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > I’m all for employment but inventing unnecessary jobs seems like a pretty bad way to go about it. > > [Lawmaker Pushes Bill To Resurrect Gas-Station Attendants](https://wbbm780.radio.com/articles/lawmaker-pushes-bill-to-resurrect-gas-station-attendants?fbclid=IwAR3qCyAXcCw9Y8imfTvlSSS5QC20wCMuMdBjhL95vNYySAsJ-V4d2dnL4_0) > Ok - maybe not strictly a liberal idea but it seems to fit… It “works” for New Jersey and, I think, Oregon. Create minimum wage jobs and claim job growth. What a win. /s ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7400 "2020-02-12T02:28:31Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > At this moment in time, there is no evidence whatsoever that he leans towards any portion of the political spectrum. He did say he hates Trump though, so there’s that. I do too and I’m a staunch conservative. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=369) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=371)