# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 371
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7401 "2020-02-12T14:50:44Z")
When [John Walker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker) was convicted for selling secrets it turned out he was registered Libertarian. Quite a few political commentators – left and right – made a big deal about it. When asked by reporters, the Chair of the Libertarian Party of California quipped, “Yeah, up to now all of our traitors have been Republicans or Democrats.” When the FBI interrogation notes were disclosed there was a comment that Walker did not seem to know much about the libertarian philosophy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7402 "2020-02-12T15:10:03Z")
Hell, who does? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7403 "2020-02-12T15:21:38Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > It “works” for New Jersey and, I think, Oregon. Create minimum wage jobs and claim job growth. What a win. /s Would piss me off in Colorado. We have had threads about this. It takes more time, and I don’t like waiting for some fool to finish a simple job I could have already done and been on my way. I guess there are plenty that would like it though. I wonder how much it would raise the price of gas? I see you said It “works”, so I guess I should detect sarcasm. ~ One of my first jobs was a pump jockey. Back when you would add a quart of oil, wash the windows and check the air in the tires. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7404 "2020-02-12T15:26:48Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > When [John Walker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker) was convicted for selling secrets it turned out he was registered Libertarian. Quite a few political commentators – left and right – made a big deal about it. When asked by reporters, the Chair of the Libertarian Party of California quipped, “Yeah, up to now all of our traitors have been Republicans or Democrats.” When the FBI interrogation notes were disclosed there was a comment that Walker did not seem to know much about the libertarian philosophy. So your basic American libertarian, then. If we’re throwing Biden stuff in here, there’s his mixing up ["]New Hampshire and Nevada]([ ref:\_00Db0K8yP.\_5000X1ozcl6:ref ). It’s not a big thing in itself, but this is the sort of shit I remember from 2008 that sank his campaign then. Why is anyone surprised he’s still doing it? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7405 "2020-02-12T15:46:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I think we’re all in agreement that the guy who drove through the tent is a stupid asshole, liberal or not. This happened in Florida. He may not be affiliated. “Hold my beer” ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7406 "2020-02-12T16:26:40Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Would piss me off in Colorado. We have had threads about this. Would this mean that stations that have 24 hour “pay at the pump” would have to either employ someone all night or turn their pumps off? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7407 "2020-02-12T17:30:57Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Would piss me off in Colorado. We have had threads about this. > > It takes more time, and I don’t like waiting for some fool to finish a simple job I could have already done and been on my way. > > I guess there are plenty that would like it though. I wonder how much it would raise the price of gas? > > I see you said It “works”, so I guess I should detect sarcasm. > > ~ One of my first jobs was a pump jockey. Back when you would add a quart of oil, wash the windows and check the air in the tires. I spend some time doing the same. Wasn’t (and still am not) a gear head, so I had issues finding the oil on some cars, especially newer models. 😛 I have NJ relatives who would have stated they wouldn’t know how to fill their cars if they had to. They would absolutely hate and be lost (initially) if NJ got rid of gas jockeys. I shake my head in dismay. In their defense though, I’ve seen enough drivers who can’t figure out how to handle more than their local gas station display/fill-up. They get lost and frustrated if they are used to Mobil and have to stop at an Exxon. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7408 "2020-02-13T15:47:45Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hell, who does? > [@Gyrate](#): > > So your basic American libertarian, then. [Here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism) ya go. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7409 "2020-02-15T02:31:03Z")
[Proposed Alabama bill would require men to get vasectomy at age 50 or after third child](https://www.fox5ny.com/news/proposed-alabama-bill-would-require-men-to-get-vasectomy-at-age-50-or-after-third-child) For those who won’t or don’t read the articles, the bill was proposed as a response to Alabama’s absolutely horrible abortion bill. It is not a serious proposal. The reason I think it is a stupid idea is that this will be taken way out of context by the right’s talking heads. They weaponize this type of statement. It will probably end up having the opposite effect that Rep. Rolanda Hollis, D-Birmingham, is hoping for. ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7410 "2020-02-28T21:32:28Z")
> **[Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html)** > > Interviews with dozens of Democratic Party officials, including 93 superdelegates, found overwhelming opposition to handing Mr. Sanders the nomination if he fell short of a majority of delegates. Democratic party willing to destroy itself to stop anything it actually should promote actually happening. Great work, you love to see it ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7411 "2020-02-28T23:01:00Z")
I believe Sanders is much easier to beat than Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7412 "2020-02-29T01:35:30Z")
He’s running for senate, right? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7413 "2020-02-29T05:00:55Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html) > > Democratic party willing to destroy itself to stop anything it actually should promote actually happening. > > Great work, you love to see it Its hard to tell from that article what exactly not handing Sanders the nomination if he has a plurality of votes actually means. If its “We will do everything we can to stop him from getting the nomination in spite of the will of the primary voters” then I agree that its a stupid idea". But if its just, “We will let the process play out according to the rules of a Brokered convention and not just hand it to him.” Then I don’t see it as a problem (and apparently[neither do 75% of dopers.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=890408)) I suspect it was the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7414 "2020-03-05T17:06:28Z")
This seems as good a place as any to pit Schumer’s comments at the recent pro choice rally > [@](#): > > “I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price,” What exactly was he implying here? Gorsuch and Kavanaugh aren’t up for reelection, so a popular uprising against them isn’t really going to hurt them that much. Taken at face value, the only price they could pay for their decision 1. impeachment 2. court packing 3. direct personal threats All three of which are stupid ideas. Now I don’t actually think the Schumer was calling for any of these, I think he was just thinking about the Republican party in general, and lumping Gorsuch and Kavanaugh in with them. But doing so gave fresh ammunition to the Republicans, and [ticked off](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/rare-rebuke-chief-justice-roberts-slams-schumer-threatening-comments-n1150036)what is probably the deciding vote in the case. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7415 "2020-03-05T17:34:04Z")
Schumer was quoting Kavanaugh, who said much the same thing during his pissant meltdown before Congress. > **[Chuck Schumer Assaults Supreme Court Justices With ... Their Own Words](https://www.wonkette.com/chuck-schumer-assaults-scotus-justices-with-unregulated-45-caliber-words)** > > Let the hypocritical pearl-clutching commence! ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7416 "2020-03-05T18:33:12Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Schumer was quoting Kavanaugh, who said much the same thing during his pissant meltdown before Congress. > > [Chuck Schumer Assaults Supreme Court Justices With ... Their Own Words](https://www.wonkette.com/chuck-schumer-assaults-scotus-justices-with-unregulated-45-caliber-words) Yeah, except that Schumer wasn’t actually quoting Kavanaugh, who didn’t actually say much the same thing. Kavanaugh: > [@](#): > > Democrats had “sowed the wind for decades to come. I fear that the whole country will reap the whirlwind.” Schumer: > [@](#): > > I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions. I won’t contest the description of Kavanaugh’s statement as a pissant meltdown, but there’s a _big_ difference between what he said and what Schumer said. Kavanaugh said that he feared the whole country would pay the price for what Democrats did. It’s a drama queen over-reaction with an over-exaggerated sense of victimization, but it’s not a threat. Schumer, in contrast, directly addressed by name two specific individuals and said “you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you…” It’s hard to read that as anything other than a direct threat against them. I think that Schumer was _trying_ to turn Kavanaugh’s own words against him, but he mangled it so badly that he wound up threatening two Supreme Court justices. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7417 "2020-03-05T18:42:50Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > I think that Schumer was _trying_ to turn Kavanaugh’s own words against him, but he mangled it so badly that he wound up threatening two Supreme Court justices. Yup. [Schumer says he misspoke in remarks directed at two Supreme Court justices, defends abortion rights](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-says-he-misspoke-in-remarks-directed-at-two-supreme-court-justices-defends-abortion-rights/2020/03/05/c0855f40-5ee3-11ea-b29b-9db42f7803a7_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-low_schumer-apology-1110a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-low_schumer-apology-1110a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans) > [@WaPo](#): > > “I should not have used the words I used yesterday. They didn’t come out the way I intended them to,” Schumer told Senate colleagues Thursday. “I’m from Brooklyn. We speak in strong language. I shouldn’t have used the words I did, but in no way was I making a threat. I never — never — would do such a thing.” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7418 "2020-03-05T19:14:10Z")
And there’s the biggest difference. When one misspeaks, when one mangles another’s words when trying to make a point, one should admit it and apologize. Not double down, not try to turn it back on those criticizing one, just admit one was wrong and apologize. Most of the time, that’s what will happen on the left. Compare that to how often it happens on the right (which I’ll admit is an occurrence greater than once, but never from the pos in the Oval Office, and nowhere near as often as the left). And yet far, far too many think that doubling down on one’s errors rather than admitting them shows “strength”. Fucking morons. ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7419 "2020-03-05T20:31:59Z")
[QUOTE=Buck Godot;22173474 Taken at face value, the only price they could pay for their decision 1. impeachment 2. court packing [/QUOTE] Good, let’s do it. Democrats and supposed to be the enemy of backwards thinking republican appointed justices. How did Kavanaugh even end there after his boo hoo being a rapist makes me sad performance. Liberals hate the idea of even seeming mean to conservatives. It’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7420 "2020-03-06T02:15:47Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Yeah, except that Schumer wasn’t actually quoting Kavanaugh, who didn’t actually say much the same thing…I think that Schumer was _trying_ to turn Kavanaugh’s own words against him, but he mangled it so badly that he wound up threatening two Supreme Court justices. You’re right. Schumer wanted to quote Kavanaugh, but screwed it up in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, our leading Democratic Senator is — and I hate to say it, because he’s my neighbor here in Brooklyn — a bit of a bumblefuck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=370) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=372)