# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 380
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7581 "2020-11-02T21:49:59Z")
There used to be a Stupid Democratic Idea of the Day, but it died rather quickly. This seems to have taken its place, and this exact same discussion has occurred many, many times. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7582 "2020-11-02T22:11:19Z")
Just because Blago was once a Democratic governor doesn’t make him a liberal now. I’m not sure what the hell I’d call him now, but while shilling for Trump is undeniably stupid I don’t think you can call it a “liberal idea.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7583 "2020-11-03T00:26:20Z")
I wonder how many of the people cheering him at that rally ranted against him 11years ago as an example of the horrible corruption in the Democrat (sic) party. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7584 "2020-11-03T00:26:22Z")
Anyway, it’s great to finally, after over a month of thread idleness, finally find another stupid liberal idea. Even if it’s questionable. See you in two months! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7585 "2020-11-03T09:07:34Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > There used to be a Stupid Democratic Idea of the Day, but it died rather quickly. Too soon, man. Too soon. 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7586 "2020-11-03T15:51:31Z")
The stupid liberal idea was supporting and elevating this corrupt ass in the first place. The day (or days) were in 2002 and 2006. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7587 "2020-11-03T21:27:24Z")
BRACH socialism GAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7588 "2020-11-03T22:08:31Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > The stupid liberal idea was supporting and elevating this corrupt ass in the first place. The day (or days) were in 2002 and 2006. This is true. We may have had ignorance as an excuse for '02, but not for '06. (And to make it even worse, his opponent was a true fiscal conservative, not some sort of religious right zealot.) ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7589 "2020-11-03T22:10:18Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > socialism Does _any_ USian know what that term really means? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7590 "2020-11-03T22:43:50Z")
Only the ones who don’t use it as a cudgel to describe their opponents and their policies. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7591 "2020-11-03T22:50:33Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > > > socialism > > Does _any_ USian know what that term really means? Does anybody, really? It is an incredibly broad term that extends from public roads and libraries all the way over to Leninist principles. It is at least as broad as “Christian”. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7592 "2020-11-15T02:44:04Z")
> **[House Dems Cancel Indoor Dinner For New Members As COVID-19 Case Numbers...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/congress-democrats-orientation-dinner-coronavirus_n_5fafe40bc5b6a37e7e321aff)** > > Images of an indoor dinner planned for freshman lawmakers on Friday — the same day the U.S. recorded 184,000 new COVID-19 infections — drew public outcry. To a teeny, teeny amount of credit, someone did figure out eventually that it was a bad idea to have an indoor sit down dinner when coronavirus cases were spiking. But the fact it got as far as it did is definitely a stupid, stupid, dangerous move by Democrats and a bad display of leadership. The new representatives are going to have to suck it up like everyone else who was supposed to be doing a one-of-a-kind special event this year and do it differently than usual. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7593 "2020-11-15T03:30:43Z")
No, because there is no such thing as an “USian”. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7594 "2020-11-15T03:34:40Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No, because there is no such thing as an “USian”. - Since when is it _your_ call? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7595 "2020-11-15T03:37:08Z")
Common decency is to refer to people, or groups of people, as they preferred to be called. We are Americans. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7596 "2020-11-15T03:39:35Z")
Like I said, who put _you_ in charge? Kind of presumptive to ignore those who live in other Americas. Are they not also Americans? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7597 "2020-11-15T03:41:39Z")
Nobody put me in charge. It’s common courtesy. And you know that. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7598 "2020-11-15T04:06:32Z")
Genuine questions, because I genuinely don’t know. Do people outside of the USA but in the Americas refer to themselves as Americans (and not “North Americans”, “Central Americans”, or “South Americans”)? Do people outside of the Americas refer to the people(s) of the Americas as Americans? Is the term “American” in actual usage ambiguous as to whether it refers to citizens of the USA or to residents of the Americas? ---
**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7599 "2020-11-15T16:11:56Z")
My understanding is that much of Latin America, possibly excluding Mexico, would consider themselves American. I have been told that Latin America generally does not delineate in the same way between North/Central/South America, and just consider the whole thing America. I think Canada and Mexico avoid the term because of our proximity to the USA. So it might be ambiguous in some contexts, but probably not in the US or Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7600 "2020-11-15T16:29:04Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > To a teeny, teeny amount of credit, someone did figure out eventually that it was a bad idea to have an indoor sit down dinner when coronavirus cases were spiking. But the fact it got as far as it did is definitely a stupid, stupid, dangerous move by Democrats and a bad display of leadership. > > The new representatives are going to have to suck it up like everyone else who was supposed to be doing a one-of-a-kind special event this year and do it differently than usual. How big of an ordeal is organizing this dinner? If it’s something that they had started planning 6 months ago, I could understand hoping this would all blow over by now (and hoping even more as deposits were made and caterers were paid etc). To be fair, as much as we have to be careful right now, we also, I think, have to work on the assumption that at some point this will be behind us. For example, I don’t think it would be wrong to plan a family vacation for a year (or two) from now and hope that you don’t need to cancel it. > [@gdave](#): > > Genuine questions, because I genuinely don’t know. Do people outside of the USA but in the Americas refer to themselves as Americans (and not “North Americans”, “Central Americans”, or “South Americans”)? Do people outside of the Americas refer to the people(s) of the Americas as Americans? Is the term “American” in actual usage ambiguous as to whether it refers to citizens of the USA or to residents of the Americas? I’ve always wondered that as we well. I always think back to a high school teacher that said it’s pretty (at best) selfish to assume “American” means “from United States of America”. As he explained it, if you go to, say, Italy and someone asks where you’re from, you’d say ‘America’. America could, of course, mean you’re from Ontario or Idaho or Guatamala or Peru, but “we” tend to think America=USA. I have to wonder if part of that is because Canada, Central and South America are divided into provinces/territories or smaller countries. Would someone visiting Italy say they’re from America/South America or would they say they’re from Brazil? I think to people from the states, “America” is short for United States of America, not North America. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=379) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=381)