# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 381
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7601 "2020-11-15T17:05:54Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > How big of an ordeal is organizing this dinner? If it’s something that they had started planning 6 months ago, I could understand hoping this would all blow over by now (and hoping even more as deposits were made and caterers were paid etc). To be fair, as much as we have to be careful right now, we also, I think, have to work on the assumption that at some point this will be behind us. It’s one thing to have planned it - I’m sure they did start planning months ago, it’s something that happens every two years like clockwork. The 2022 dinner is probably already marked down on many people’s calendars. However, IMNSHO, someone should have looked at the covid numbers last week and said “no, we’re not doing this.” Instead, it looks like they were going to try to social distance a meet-and-greet (which just doesn’t work) and the only reason it’s being cancelled is that members of the press and the public started publicizing the absolute idiocy of this kind of event at this time. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7602 "2020-11-15T17:14:13Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > However, IMNSHO, someone should have looked at the covid numbers last week and said “no, we’re not doing this.” Instead, it looks like they were going to try to social distance a meet-and-greet (which just doesn’t work) and the only reason it’s being cancelled is that members of the press and the public started publicizing the absolute idiocy of this kind of event at this time. I agree. I assume the dinner was planned for tonight (I didn’t see a date listed). At least it sounded like they were planning to have it be as socially distanced as they could. I think they even mentioned having good air circulation. And yeah, cancelling it is not only a better idea, but it’s good to lead by setting an example. At least they weren’t going to be spending the night hugging, shaking hands, rubbing elbows and packed into a small space like the GOP has been doing any time they feel the need to celebrate something (like a certain supreme court justice). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7603 "2020-11-15T22:44:53Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Common decency is to refer to people, or groups of people, as they preferred to be called. We are Americans. USian and the like may not be common terms, but they are occasionally used in the US, particularly to avoid ambiguity with other kinds of Americans. Do you have any reason why the word USian would actually be offensive? Is it some sort of microaggression? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7604 "2020-11-15T22:48:01Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Do you have any reason why the word USian would actually be offensive? Is it some sort of **microaggression**? - Hell, that’s his middle name. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7605 "2020-11-15T23:56:00Z")
[https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html](https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html) noun: American(s) adjective: American ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7606 "2020-11-15T23:58:17Z")
I am truly amazed. A stupid liberal idea is Dem lawmakers cancelling an event later than they maybe should have, while the Republican lawmakers are deliberately refusing to contact Democrats who have been exposed to infected Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7607 "2020-11-16T00:42:14Z")
Kid falls into a body of water, drowns, and he was partially eaten by aquatic animals. “Demonstrators and the state NAACP president have called for ‘justice’ for Charles.” Justice for what, exactly? > **[Death of teen Quawan Charles is being investigated as a homicide](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8951213/Death-Louisiana-teen-Quawan-Charles-investigated-homicide.html)** > > Charles vanished from his family's home on October 30. On November 3, his mutilated body was found in a sugar cane field. Sheriff Tommy Romero called it 'an active, ongoing homicide investigation' ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7608 "2020-11-16T00:44:58Z")
How is this a liberal idea? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7609 "2020-11-16T00:57:10Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Justice for what, exactly? Did you even read the headline? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7610 "2020-11-16T01:02:51Z")
Aren’t most unexplained deaths investigated as possible homicides until all the evidence is checked out? > The final report is pending final autopsy results, toxicology and a police investigation, it said. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7611 "2020-11-16T01:05:39Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Aren’t most unexplained deaths investigated as possible homicides until all the evidence is checked out? I don’t know, but in that jurisdiction, according to that article, they are. The parents are still angry and frustrated because when they reported their son missing they were (according to the parents) more or less ignored and even now they say they’re not getting any answers. Justice, from what I gather, is answers about what happened. From the article: "‘We certainly hope that the Sheriff Office and all of the local agencies are putting more energy in solving the mystery of Quawan´s death than they did in trying to find him when he was reported missing,’ Haley said via email in response to Romero’s statement. ‘Though it may appear that the relationship between the Charles family and the local agencies has been adversarial, at the end of the day the family just wants truthful answers so that they know how and why Quawan died regardless of who provides them those answers.’ " ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7612 "2020-11-16T01:13:14Z")
Do you honestly think that the state president of the NAACP is a conservative? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7613 "2020-11-16T01:18:27Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Do you honestly think that the state president of the NAACP is a conservative? - Wanting justice is a possible homicide is not specifically a liberal idea. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7614 "2020-11-16T01:21:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > > > Do you honestly think that the state president of the NAACP is a conservative? - > > Wanting justice is a possible homicide is not specifically a liberal idea I find it puzzling that D\_Anconia thinks that “justice” is a liberal notion. Does that mean that “Injustice” is a conservative value? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7615 "2020-11-16T01:23:00Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I find it puzzling that D\_Anconia thinks that “justice” is a liberal notion. Does that mean that **“Injustice” is a conservative value**? - Based on what I’ve seen, I’d say yes. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7616 "2020-11-16T01:24:00Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > > > Do you honestly think that the state president of the NAACP is a conservative? - > > Wanting justice is a possible homicide is not specifically a liberal idea. Eeehhhhh, well, you’d _hope_ it isn’t… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7617 "2020-11-16T01:28:28Z")
It’s not a homicide. A kid fell into the water, drowned, and was (partially) eaten by fish. According to the Coroner. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7618 "2020-11-16T01:31:06Z")
I’'ll give you three guesses as to how that was determined. The article even stated that such a death is initially treated as a homicide. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7619 "2020-11-16T01:33:17Z")
It initially was, apparently per the standard protocol. The Coroner said it was drowning. What are the protestors protesting, then? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7620 "2020-11-16T01:33:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s not a homicide. A kid fell into the water, drowned, and was (partially) eaten by fish. According to the Coroner. Coroner said he drowned. The coroner doesn’t determine how he ended up in the water. If I held your head underwater, the coroner would say the same thing. It’s up to the police to determine how he ended up drowning. Did he slip and fall? Was he thrown in? Did someone hold him under water? What was he doing with the other family? Why did the police brush off the parent’s when the reported him missing. These are all questions that need answering to attain justice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=380) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=382)