# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 382
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7621 "2020-11-16T01:35:16Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The Coroner said it was drowning. What are the protestors protesting, then? What happened in the 3 days between him leaving his father’s house and his body being found? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7622 "2020-11-16T01:39:08Z")
Again, how is this a liberal idea? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7623 "2020-11-16T01:46:13Z")
“Was he thrown in? Did someone hold him under water?” AFAIK, there’s no evidence–none–that those things happened. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7624 "2020-11-16T01:47:05Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > AFAIK, there’s no evidence–none–that those things happened. What are you basing that on? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7625 "2020-11-16T01:55:24Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > “Was he thrown in? Did someone hold him under water?” > > AFAIK, there’s no evidence–none–that those things happened As far as I can tell, the family is wanting a more thorough investigation, as they would like more answers to these questions. Why are you opposed to a more thorough investigation? And why is a more thorough investigation a “stupid liberal idea”? Please answer this question. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7626 "2020-11-16T01:56:45Z")
It is if the victim is black. American conservatism is violent, white supremacist movement. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7627 "2020-11-16T02:40:42Z")
If we can determine whether they live in a red area, can we move this to “Stupid Republican idea of the day”? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7628 "2020-11-16T04:19:37Z")
The Coroner said there was NO evidence of ante-mortem trauma, i.e. he wasn’t pushed or held under the water. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7629 "2020-11-16T04:33:48Z")
From the Washington Post: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/14/quawan-charles-homicide/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/14/quawan-charles-homicide/) > In a statement Saturday, Iberia Parish Sheriff Tommy Romero said “any case involving someone found deceased in this manner” is treated as a homicide investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7630 "2020-11-16T04:36:34Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The Coroner said there was NO evidence of ante-mortem trauma, i.e. he wasn’t pushed or held under the water. No ante-mortem trauma would imply that there were no drugs present in his system, he hadn’t been shot, strangled, tied up, no broken bones or fresh bruises, no scratches or cuts etc. The coroner isn’t going to be able to tell if something was done that wouldn’t leave a mark. Getting pushed into a river isn’t going to leave any marks on a body that would make it obvious they didn’t just trip and fall in. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7631 "2020-11-16T04:41:43Z")
A loved one dies, drowned in ankle-deep water under weird circumstances with unanswered questions - of course the family is going to be skeptical, and even grasp at straws to have it make sense until the investigation is complete and questions can be answered. For you to mock this as a stupid liberal idea is shameful. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7632 "2020-11-16T04:51:29Z")
If an evildoer snuck up behind him and pushed, there likely wouldn’t be marks on the body. However, holding someone’s head under water would naturally cause a violent struggle, probably leaving bruises or other marks on the deceased. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7633 "2020-11-16T04:53:05Z")
The articles say he drowned in ankle-deep water. The autopsy photo appeared to the mother to show a large swelling on one side of his face. The police allegedly didn’t respond to the missing person report in a timely manner. All those things, rightly or wrongly, would make a family, who is already distraught, suspicious. The police are doing a thorough investigation to answer these suspicions. As they should. Again, how is this a liberal idea? And if we can find that they live in a red parish, can we move this to Stupid Republican Idea of the Day? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7634 "2020-11-16T04:55:12Z")
Yes, the Coroner reported that his face was eaten by aquatic animals of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7635 "2020-11-16T04:57:25Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > However, holding someone’s head under water would naturally cause a violent struggle, probably leaving bruises or other marks on the deceased. Not necessarily. And not if he were semi-conscious. Chances are, he passed out and drowned, but you don’t rule out other possibilities based on likelihood. You, you know, investigate. Did the cops talk to the friend and the friend’s mother? Do you know? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7636 "2020-11-16T05:03:56Z")
‘We have obtained and reviewed video evidence showing Quawan `Bobby´ Charles near that area,' he said. 'Video evidence indicates no other individuals present with Quawan `Bobby´ Charles or anyone else present for some time before, or after, he is seen on the recording.’’ ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7637 "2020-11-16T05:06:26Z")
Did they see him die? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7638 "2020-11-16T05:17:49Z")
No one has explained, despite all of the available evidence, WHY people are protesting. A dumb teenager (which are all teenagers) fell in the water and drowned. And what does the NAACP have to do with it? Why are some people trying to make this about race? ---
**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7639 "2020-11-16T12:55:07Z")
I heard conspiracy theories on websites frequented by largely black audiences maybe even a video if I can find it where they were saying he was hung, which seems weird and also that the dad, (stepdad?) killed him. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7640 "2020-11-16T13:02:45Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No one has explained, despite all of the available evidence, WHY people are protesting. A)What evidence? B)That you don’t understand why people are protesting doesn’t mean no one has explained to you why people are protesting it. And, I’m going to jump on the bandwagon and ask why this is a stupid liberal idea? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=381) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=383)