# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7661 "2020-11-17T05:56:42Z")

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P.S. It wasn’t a lynching, as the family’s lawyer claims.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7662 "2020-11-17T06:05:24Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Not necessarily, but he WAS alone, according to the video evidence.

So the video showed him drowning?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7663 "2020-11-17T12:10:45Z")

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Pack it in, investigators! Some random guy on the internet says everything’s okay.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7664 "2020-11-17T12:50:33Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> The Coroner’s report, the security cams that showed no one near him when he drowned, and now the independent autopsy.

The coroner’s report which showed no evidence of pre-death trauma, but toxicology and histology reports are still pending and which wouldn’t show evidence from things that don’t leave marks (like being pushed or carried)? Or the video that shows nothing more than him alone at some point before he died.

Neither of those things prove anything. If he had strangulation marks on his neck, it would prove he was strangled. Lack of pre-death trauma doesn’t mean he wasn’t murdered.

If the camera had showed him tripping over an untied shoelace and landing in the water, it would likely be ruled an accident. But, so far as I know, there’s no footage of his final moments.

Footage near the time of his death showing someone with him would point towards foul-play. Lack of video evidence of a second person, doesn’t prove a second person wasn’t involved.

I’m not saying this wasn’t an accident, I’m saying you don’t know that it was or wasn’t. They logic you’re using to prove it wasn’t doesn’t work. Your logic would be similar to if you reported your car stolen out of your driveway, but the cops said ‘someone that lives about a half mile away has a doorbell camera that showed you driving a half hour before you reported it stolen, so we think you probably just forgot where you parked it or let one of your friends borrow it’.  
Make sense? Video evidence if you driving your car before you reported it stolen doesn’t mean it wasn’t stolen.

I haven’t been able to find how much time elapsed, or even estimated to have elapsed, between the time he was seen on video alone and the time they estimated he died, or was found.  
It should also be noted that even the local PD has called his death ‘suspicious’.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7665 "2020-11-17T13:29:11Z")

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I’m wondering how you think a healthy 15 year old boy drowned in half a foot of water with nobody else there.

This whole situation is sketchy as hell. Boy taken from his home by people unacquainted with the parents, driven miles and miles away, allowed to leave with no transport, no call back to the parents, no “let me drive you home”, just let him wander off on foot. Boy found near that home dead, drowned in 6 inches of water. Sketchy.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7666 "2020-11-17T13:33:19Z")

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C’mon, clearly this ‘kid’ was high on the crackajuahana and the PCmethaP and resisted the waters lawful arrest.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7667 "2020-11-17T14:00:00Z")

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I hear-tell that he knew someone whose cousin once sold a dime bag.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7668 "2020-11-17T14:05:22Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> C’mon, clearly this ‘kid’ was high on the crackajuahana and the PCmethaP

I know you’re just cracking wise, but at least this would make sense, which is more than I can say for the conservative trying to make an legitimate argument.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7669 "2020-11-17T15:13:49Z")

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Stupid liberal idea from a day spent on a pleasant hillside:

Matthew; 5 3-10

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7670 "2020-11-17T20:17:09Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> P.S. It wasn’t a lynching, as the family’s lawyer claims.

Nobody claimed it was a lynching, it was a drowning. But then, you would know that, since apparently you’re a witness.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7671 "2020-11-17T20:43:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Nobody claimed it was a lynching

Although somebody has jumped from “he resembles this other kid who was lynched” to “he was lynched”.

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> But then, you would know that, since apparently you’re a witness.

Seriously, why all this objection to an investigation from someone who is supposedly not involved?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7672 "2020-11-17T20:47:44Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Seriously, why all this objection to an investigation from someone who is supposedly not involved?

I know! It’s strange. He’s like “The family and everyone here is stupid for wanting more investigation, because I have sat in the comfort of my armchair and determined that no more investigation is needed. Case closed.”

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7673 "2020-11-17T21:12:45Z")

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" The death of 15-year-old **Quawan “Bobby” Charles** has all the markings of a modern-day lynching according to his family – who say the case reminds them of the [**Emmett Till**](https://www.tmz.com/people/emmett-till/) tragedy."

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7674 "2020-11-17T21:13:45Z")

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The markings of a modern day lynching. Not a lynching. Difference.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7675 "2020-11-17T21:32:51Z")

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And even if they meant an actual lynching, proving that he wasn’t lynched doesn’t prove he wasn’t murdered, it only proves he wasn’t lynched.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7676 "2020-11-17T22:23:04Z")

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English: Simple to learn, hard to master.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7677 "2020-11-19T15:46:46Z")

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My liberal idea of the day:

Biden should tent the White House before he moves in. Needs to eliminate the pests.

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**Author:** ![SoToasty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sotoasty/32/2803_2.png) [@SoToasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoToasty)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7678 "2020-11-19T15:56:48Z")

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Just the White House? What about all the other government buildings?

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7679 "2020-11-19T20:16:28Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> It’s a contraction of “United Statesian”, [which is recognized by Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/United%20Statesian). It’s only a matter of time until M-W lists the contraction.

Yeah, well fuck Merriam-Webster. They have literally defined “literally” as its opposite. I am literally angry with rage.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7680 "2020-11-19T20:27:25Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> They have literally defined “literally” as its opposite. I am literally angry with rage.

Or as I like to say, literally literally means figuratively.

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