# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7781 "2021-01-19T02:42:54Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Actual inicdent that happened to me: an American child told child aged me that she “slid down a hill on her fanny” and for a while I was super confused about where vaginas were located and how Americans might slide down hills.

I see; you’re fucked in your head. If you had only just said so. Without all of of the hoop de doo.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7782 "2021-01-19T03:04:11Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Kids in cages” administration was Trump. The areas were used as temporary holding while people were sorted out under Obama.

I read this as you saying kids were in cages under Obama, just temporarily [quote=“running\_coach, post:7780, topic:579086”]  
Maybe conservatives should stop looking for excuses for bad behavior and try to be better people.  
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Agreed, fuck them.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7783 "2021-01-19T03:07:24Z")

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Biden is a bit like a rapper except he has trouble talking.

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7784 "2021-01-19T03:11:34Z")

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You are a little like an idiot except you’re exactly the same.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7785 "2021-01-19T05:20:44Z")

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Have another dozen tiinnies ya drunken Ocker.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7786 "2021-01-20T11:07:38Z")

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Two ideas but it’s 2021 we can do this.

Is this the foreign policy of a man with a dad who can drive a car very well?

> **[Biden will recognize Guaido as Venezuela's leader, top diplomat says](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN29O2PE)**
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> U.S. President-elect Joe Biden's administration will continue to recognize Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the South American country's president, Anthony Blinken, Biden's nominee for secretary of state, said on Tuesday.

Is this stupid or not? Why the embassy there, seemed like Trump idiocy.

> **[Biden to keep Jerusalem embassy but seek Palestinian state, nominee says](https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/biden-state-pick-backs-two-201450248.html)**
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> President-elect Joe Biden will not reverse Donald Trump's landmark recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital but will seek a state for the Palestinians, Antony Blinken, his nominee for secretary of state, said Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7787 "2021-01-20T11:25:13Z")

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The ship has sailed on moving the embassy to Jerusalem; reversing it now would be pointlessly antagonistic to Israel. It was a dumb idea but it’s done now.

And I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about with regard to Venezuela. Do make an effort next time.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7788 "2021-01-20T12:19:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about with regard to Venezuela. Do make an effort next time. -

Wouldn’t that require thinking?

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7789 "2021-01-20T17:05:55Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> antagonistic to Israel

Careful, they might refuse your billions of dollars in weapons or do something about being declared an aparthied state by their own human rights organisation.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7790 "2021-01-20T17:31:43Z")

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Still not making an effort, I see.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7791 "2021-01-20T17:37:24Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> refuse your billions of dollars in weapons

Seems like that would mostly piss off the red state senators who promise their constituents jobs in weapons factories. You DO know that American foreign aid is for the most part a subsidy to the military-industrial complex, yes?

“Here, Israel, Egypt, Afghanistan, Iraq, and two dozen other countries - have this gift certificate, good for purchasing weapons from American companies”.

That’s their primary purpose. Their secondary purpose is to make all the militaries in the region dependant on US aid to ensure they don’t go to war without the US’s say-so.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7792 "2021-01-20T17:46:44Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Seems like that would mostly piss off the red state senators…

I live in Connecticut, a blue state with two Democratic senators. I also live less than five miles from a facility that just received a $10-billion contract to build new nuclear submarines for the navy. My wife’s sister and her husband live in upstate New York (another blue state), and they work at a research and development facility that designs propulsion systems for those same subs.

America’s foreign policy and its military welfare system have been pretty bipartisan enterprises over the past half-century.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7793 "2021-01-20T17:57:37Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> America’s foreign policy and its military welfare system have been pretty bipartisan enterprises over the past half-century.

Fair enough. I am still annoyed by an article I red just the other day about how (the somewhat related) Alabama’s rocket welfare led to the terrible mess that is the SLS and most likely the delay (potentially by years) of the Artemis program, but you are right, both red and blue states are guilty here.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7794 "2021-01-20T18:20:28Z")

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Thanks **Babale** and **mhendo**. Sounds like the democrats having some power now won’t help any of that then.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7795 "2021-01-21T09:34:20Z")

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Liberals arguing that cancelling all student debit is unfair to those who paid it off or got it free through military service, please get fucked. It’s fine to help people who are wealthy if everyone benefits. And nobody deserves to be saddled with debt for learning things.

I’ve seen shit on twitter from liberals saying this crap, and maybe these papers count:

> **[Perspective | Canceling all student debt is a bad idea](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/canceling-all-student-debt-is-a-bad-idea/2019/07/05/09b3d11a-9dc4-11e9-85d6-5211733f92c7_story.html)**
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> It’s not just unfair. It would be terribly divisive.

[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-06/student-loans-writing-off-america-s-1-trillion-debt-isn-t-so-fringe](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-06/student-loans-writing-off-america-s-1-trillion-debt-isn-t-so-fringe)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7796 "2021-01-21T10:32:03Z")

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Anyone calling the man who spent a good chunk of his career as an editor, then Sr Editor, of _Fortune Magazine_ a ‘liberal’ is a person so dedicated to being a moron we can safely discount their arguments.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7797 "2021-01-21T10:45:02Z")

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Which liberals? Please provide the names cause I’d like to give them a piece of my mind.

Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7798 "2021-01-21T10:50:42Z")

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“Anyone calling the man who spent a good chunk of his career as an editor, then Sr Editor, of Fortune Magazine a ‘liberal’ is a person so dedicated to being a moron we can safely discount their arguments.”  
They sound silly. Yes! Liberals now fixing the problem where people had to pay for their education, which hurts everyone and costs them so dearly.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7799 "2021-01-21T10:53:28Z")

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… to my point, Sloppy Joe.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/7800 "2021-01-21T11:08:42Z")

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I know, it’s crazy, but there are libs galore griping about this.

Our cohort:

> [@Standalone student debt forgiveness is a terrible policy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/standalone-student-debt-forgiveness-is-a-terrible-policy/925976):
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> Standalone student debt forgiveness is a terrible policy, and I can’t get my head around why intelligent people are supporting it. For reference, [Chuck Schumer suggests Biden could eliminate student debt via executive order](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/16/schumer-suggests-student-debt-forgiveness-through-executive-order.html). Note that this is NOT part of a comprehensive plan to make college more affordable, so after this executive order prospective college students would still need to take on enormous amounts of debt. It would do nothing to solve the problem. Proponents talk about the boost …

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