# Stupid liberal idea of the day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/781 "2012-09-06T15:43:25Z")

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Just another example of Dutch perfidy! They’re coming to saw your doors in half! We’re Dyslexic-Americans Untied to Beat the Dutch! Wake up, America!

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/782 "2012-09-06T16:05:08Z")

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" There are only two things I can’t stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch."

Michael Caine

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/783 "2012-09-06T16:52:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Just another example of Dutch perfidy! They’re coming to saw your doors in half! We’re Dyslexic-Americans Untied to Beat the Dutch! Wake up, America!

_National Lampoon_ once had a hilarious “newsletter” from an anti-Dutch group pointing out the horrible things they were doing. They’ll make you wear wooden shoes! Who knows what they’re cooking up in their Dutch Ovens! They want to take over the country “from Zee to Zuider Zee”!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/784 "2012-09-07T02:15:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I can’t see the clip but I _might_ have given her a little slack for hyperbole except…“The Dutch”? Really? Seriously, she said that? Wow.

My guess was that at that point she realized that she had blown her answer, completely, and had enough historical knowledge to at least make a silly exit from that point.

Her office is claiming that it was supposed to be a joke. I’m not sure that that spin will work in this case, but she did not really come off as an idiot in the rest of the interview.

(For dumb comments, I’ll put her silly answer against Arizona Governor Jan Brewer saying at the Republican convention that she expected Obama to win this election, and she hoped he would.)

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/785 "2012-09-08T03:30:08Z")

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Kerry Washington at the DNC:

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> Today there are people trying take away rights that our mothers, grandmothers and great-grandmothers fought for: our right to vote, our right to choose, affordable quality education, equal pay, access to health care.

Oh, for pity’s sake.

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/786 "2012-09-08T04:06:54Z")

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All of those things are true, and I’m sure you know that.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/787 "2012-09-08T10:08:44Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Oh, for pity’s sake.

How about you tell us which concept, or word, you disagree with, **Clothy**? It’s no fun, just saying “ **Clothy** ’s all pissed-off again!” We need to know what angers you, so we can then mock your anger. Help us out, here. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/788 "2012-09-08T12:15:41Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> All of those things are true, and I’m sure you know that.

I’m pretty sure underestimating **Humpy** ’s igorance on any given subject constitutes a stupid liberal idea.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/789 "2012-09-08T13:53:47Z")

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Let’s analyze the statement, shall we?

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> Today there are people

“People”. Not “ALL REPUBLICANS”, not “EVERY REPUBLICAN”, not “REPUBLICANS ARE BY DEFINITION EVIL SHITHOSES”, just “people.”

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> trying take away rights that our mothers, grandmothers and great-grandmothers fought for: our right to vote,

[http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla\_republican\_we\_suppressed\_black\_votes/](http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/)

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> our right to choose,

[http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-20/republican-platform-won-t-protect-mortgage-tax-deduction.html](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-20/republican-platform-won-t-protect-mortgage-tax-deduction.html)

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> affordable quality education,

> **[House GOP Looks to Slash Education Spending](https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/house-gop-looks-to-slash-education-spending/2011/02)**
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> The Republican budget plan would cut U.S. Department of Education funding to $4.9 billion below the fiscal 2010 level of $63.7 billion, including cuts to special education and Pell Grants.

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> equal pay

[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/politics/senate-republicans-block-pay-equity-bill.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/politics/senate-republicans-block-pay-equity-bill.html)

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> access to health care.

> **[House Obamacare Repeal: Thirty-Third Time's the Charm?](https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/house-obamacare-repeal-thirty-third-times-the-charm/)**
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> Get breaking national and world news, broadcast video coverage, and exclusive interviews. Find the top news online at ABC news.

Seems fairly dead-on to me.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/790 "2012-09-08T13:57:00Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> I’m pretty sure underestimating **Humpy** ’s igorance on any given subject constitutes a stupid liberal idea.

Bite me, fish. You know damn good and well she meant all Republicans and she knew she was lying through her teeth when she said it. And all the dipshits at the convention applauded her. And so did you, more than likely.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/791 "2012-09-08T16:00:43Z")

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I was wondering what that equal pay referred to actually. I thought Clothahump was going to post an impassioned plea for equality of outcome and how the Republicans and the free market are the aegis of such a concept, but the damn government keeps interceding and promoting an unequal distribution of wealth.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/792 "2012-09-08T16:13:48Z")

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I also fail to see what could be misleading about Washington’s statement. I gather she’s talking specifically about American women, and American black women in particular, and whatever measure of equality and liberty they currently have is mostly a product of struggles over just the last 100 years or so, roughly within the timeframe of a modern adult’s great-grandmother.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/793 "2012-09-08T19:49:29Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Bite me, fish.

I try to help out by pointing to an actual stupid liberal idea and this is the thanks I get? Ingrate.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/794 "2012-09-08T20:18:54Z")

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I think this board is an Equal Opportunity Annoyer. It can dish out snark to weaselly libs and cons.

And do it with a cogent argument, and a certain amount of style.

But…

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> Oh, for pity’s sake.

and

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> Bite me, fish.

… not so much.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/795 "2012-09-08T21:46:29Z")

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Clothahump’s idea that Washington was lying strikes me as grist for that _other_ thread - you know the one I mean.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/796 "2012-09-09T00:56:25Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> Let’s analyze the statement, shall we?
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> [House Obamacare Repeal: Thirty-Third Time's the Charm? - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/house-obamacare-repeal-thirty-third-times-the-charm/)
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> Seems fairly dead-on to me.

That isn’t denying access to health care, just government funded health care.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/797 "2012-09-09T01:41:48Z")

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Which for a large chunk of the population is the only healthcare they have a chance of getting.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/798 "2012-09-09T01:49:21Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Which for a large chunk of the population is the only healthcare they have a chance of getting.

For far too many of them, if they had bothered to make responsible choices, they wouldn’t be in that situation. For example, if you can’t feed 'em, don’t breed 'em.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/799 "2012-09-09T01:59:33Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> For far too many of them, if they had bothered to make responsible choices, they wouldn’t be in that situation. For example, if you can’t feed 'em, don’t breed 'em.

Or if you can’t work for a living because you’re a lazy ‘disabled’ fuckwit, marry a rich guy with low standards!

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/800 "2012-09-09T02:24:54Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Or if you can’t work for a living because you’re a lazy ‘disabled’ fuckwit, marry a rich guy with low standards!

This isn’t a liberal problem or a conservative one, but universal - you don’t like the message, make up shit and attack the messenger!

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