# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 403
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8042 "2024-01-31T16:02:33Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > It’s not _every_ car that gets searched at a traffic stop. Would it surprise you to learn that I am not Black or Hispanic? Which of course just makes it worse. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8043 "2024-01-31T16:11:43Z")
Typical political virtue signaling. The bill has no cosponsors , and has been thrust into committee hell - i.e. will not ever be passed. Already getting the right-wing scare tactics of “Demoncrats are trying to remove all laws!” What’s a shame is that Slaughter was one of the cosponsors of the SAFE-T bill that removed cash bail in Illinois. This gives right-wing judges another excuse to ignore the SAFE-T bill as liberal overreach. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8044 "2024-01-31T16:27:11Z")
I’ve been pulled over plenty of times, and couldn’t count the number of times both my car and my person were searched. Guess how many times those stops resulted in a ticket/warning? That’s right, NONE of them. (Up to and including; The time the cops were discussing the best way to remove the backseat of my car. Yeah, that sure sounds like what’s allowed in a ‘Terry Search’ don’t it?) Would it surprise you to learn that I am White . . . and can pass as a ‘biker/hippie’? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8045 "2024-02-01T15:37:53Z")
Slaughter has reconsidered, intending to narrow the bill’s scope and reintroduce later. > **[Lawmaker won’t move forward with controversial proposal banning some traffic...](https://www.dailyherald.com/20240131/news/lawmaker-wont-move-forward-with-controversial-proposal-banning-some-traffic-stops/)** > > A state representative who on Monday introduced an amendment to the Illinois Vehicle Code prohibiting police officers from stopping a driver for minor speeding and improper lane use violations has dec... > Acknowledging the proposal’s broad language, Slaughter said he will seek input from stakeholders — including police officials and community members — to craft more narrow legislation. > > “I understand the reaction law enforcement had in regard to the actual language that has been filed for [HB 4603](https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=4603&GAID=17&DocTypeID=HB&SessionID=112&GA=103). It is very broad,” the Democrat from Chicago said. > [@Cheesesteak](#): > > While it’s not traditionally liberal, it does fall into the “stop police from harassing people of color over BS traffic reasons”. Also from the above link: > The representative introduced the bill to address “significant racial disparities as they related to police, traffic and pedestrian stops” of Black and Brown people. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8046 "2024-02-01T15:55:03Z")
Wait, what? He didn’t double down? He’s going to reconsider the details? This is not stupid enough. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8047 "2024-02-01T15:57:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He didn’t double down? Wrong party. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8048 "2024-06-10T00:48:50Z")
believe it or not but Nixon (!) floated a health plan similar to Obamacare but Ted Kenndey killed it ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8049 "2024-06-10T01:04:48Z")
Did you purposely reply to a comment that’s not only 13 years old, but one of the earliest in an 8000+ post thread? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8050 "2024-06-10T06:06:48Z")
On the plus side he gets to have the last word. Truman\_Burbank hasn’t posted here for three years. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8051 "2024-06-10T07:17:11Z")
Since we’re revisiting old posts in this thread, here’s one from an unmissed oldie that has aged like milk: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > If you want to contend that Republicans are less accepting of people who have knowingly broken the law in order to be here, then you are not talking about race but politics, and there’s nothing whatever wrong in expecting people to abide by the law…a consideration that seems to be considerably stronger to the right than to the left. I’ve always been amazed at the liberal propensity to break the law or champion those who do while at the same time casting scurrilous aspersions upon the character of those who object. I wonder if he still holds that view? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8052 "2024-06-10T16:04:04Z")
I would bet yes. The rationalization is strong in this one. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8053 "2024-06-10T16:51:28Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I’ll allow it. While it’s not traditionally liberal, it does fall into the “stop police from harassing people of color over BS traffic reasons”. However, this stupidity extends “BS traffic reasons” to a place where Mad Max’s car couldn’t be pulled over. But it also gives police an excuse to turn their backs and have another donut when ‘mob justice’ rears it’s ugly head. Not that they do much about it now… “It’s not ‘road rage’. It’s political free speech when cars run you off the road for looking liberal ( and when chase cars cam it all for REDDIT in case you dare to react ).” ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8054 "2024-08-16T20:51:24Z")
There’s a video floating around on Twitter in which JD Vance gets out of a car with his dog and he’s just draping the lead over his hand and then holding onto it with two fingers and all of the reactionary liberals over there are making absolute fucking morons out of themselves going about – “I bet it’s a rented dog … he doesn’t know how to hold a leash … I bet he’s never seen a dog in his life …” It’s his extremely well-behave German Shepherd Dog. I’ve seen other videos of him walking the dog without a lead at all. It is one good fucking dog. I hate JD Vance, but this criticism is so off base and ridiculous that it has set me off as a dog owner and I’m just trying to stop myself from replying to all of them over there about what idiots they’re being. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8055 "2024-08-16T20:58:56Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > It’s his extremely well-behave German Shepherd Dog. I’ve seen other videos of him walking the dog without a lead at all. It is one good fucking dog. I hate JD Vance, but this criticism is so off base and ridiculous that it has set me off as a dog owner and I’m just trying to stop myself from replying to all of them over there about what idiots they’re being. As a person most would consider liberal, I couldn’t agree with you more. Enough with calling people “weird”, the mattress nonsense and this crap. It has nothing to do with anything. Talk policy. That is all I want to hear about. If other politicians are morons I’ll figure it out for myself, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8056 "2024-08-16T21:31:54Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > Enough with calling people “weird” Have you _seen_ how triggered Trump gets over “weird” comments? If this kind of shallow nonsense is what works (over substantive debat), that is a sad indictment of our society. But if Trump is elected, that’s worse. So, indict out society as much as is needed. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8057 "2024-08-16T21:43:48Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Have you _seen_ how triggered Trump gets over “weird” comments? > > If this kind of shallow nonsense is what works (over substantive debat), that is a sad indictment of our society. But if Trump is elected, that’s worse. So, indict out society as much as is needed. That’s fair. But no, I haven’t seen it. My current events intake is 99% reading - I rarely see video of any kind unless it’s a necessary part of the issue (George Floyd, Jan 6, that sort of thing). So I’m aware that Trump and his ilk have reacted poorly to “weird”, but I still don’t care because it’s not a matter of substance. There are plenty of reasons I would not vote for Trump long before we get to his apparently unhinged reaction to “weird”. I take the point that extraordinary steps should be taken to prevent Trump’s re-election. But I still refuse to consider or give attention to this sort of BS, no matter who it’s directed at. We need to normalize talking about policy goals, period. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8058 "2024-08-16T21:58:30Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > I take the point that extraordinary steps should be taken to prevent Trump’s re-election. But I still refuse to consider or give attention to this sort of BS, no matter who it’s directed at. We need to normalize talking about policy goals, period. That’s a prescriptivist approach, which is very risky when you’re trying to win over people or convince them of something… It’s all well and good to say “we should be better than this”, but if you play to the electorate you wish your country had instead of the one it actually does, you will lose. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8059 "2024-08-16T22:24:26Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That’s a prescriptivist approach, which is very risky when you’re trying to win over people or convince them of something… > > It’s all well and good to say “we should be better than this”, but if you play to the electorate you wish your country had instead of the one it actually does, you will lose. Again, a fair point. But I refuse to participate in the spewing of nonsense. Everyone else can do what they like, but I will encourage them to be concerned with matters of substance. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8060 "2024-08-16T22:41:10Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > Enough with calling people “weird”, the mattress nonsense and this crap. It has nothing to do with anything. Talk policy. That is all I want to hear about. If other politicians are morons I’ll figure it out for myself, thanks. My higher level self agrees with this, but my more base side is tired of being the Mr. Nice when they go low we go high guy. If a baseless criticism of no significance plants a negative impression off the opposition in the minds of some people and that in turn might lead to fewer of them voting for him. Go for it. We’re in a street fight for the fate of our country. Following Queensberry rules is just going to get us kicked in the nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/8061 "2024-08-16T22:43:17Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > Again, a fair point. But I refuse to participate in the spewing of nonsense. At least you can hold your head high when they line you up against the wall. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=402) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=404)