# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/861 "2012-09-12T17:12:08Z")
Take out all the stuff centered around **curlcoat** , in it only is one page… ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/862 "2012-09-13T12:41:56Z")
Kathleen Sebelius violated the Hatch Act this past spring in a speech to a group in Charlotte. She was there speaking as HHS Secretary, then she "went off script,’ and endorsed President Obama’s reelection and endorsed the Democratic Candidate for Governor of North Carolina. To her credit, she realized her fuck-up, and had the Campaign reimburse the government for the cost of the trip and other expenses. That doesn’t excuse her massive brane fart to begin with, hence my inclusion here. [Raleigh New & Observer article.](http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/09/12/2338358/report-sebeliuss-political-comments.html) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/863 "2012-09-13T13:43:59Z")
I thought the Hatch Act only applied to career civil servants, not political appointees? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/864 "2012-09-13T13:59:55Z")
Relevant text: > [@](#): > > SEC. 9. > > (a) It shall be unlawful for any person employed in the executive branch of the Federal Government, or any agency or department thereof, to use his official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering ;with an election or affecting the result thereof. No officer or employee in the executive branch of the Federal Government, or any agency or department thereof, shall take any active part in political management or in political campaigns. All such persons shall retain the right to vote as they may choose and to express their opinions on all political subjects. For the purposes of this section the term “officer” or “employee” shall not be construe to include > > (1) the President and the Vice Presdent of the United States; > > (2) persons whose compensation is paid from the appropriation for the office of the President; > > (3) heads and assistant heads of executive departments; > > (4) officers who are appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, and who determine policies to be pursued by the United States in its relations with foreign powers or in the Nation-wide administration of Federal laws. She would fall under 4, no? I guess the fact that she reclassified her trip and the DNC reimbursed the government instead of just saying “Section 9, subsection 4, biatches!” means for one reason or another she doesn’t qualify. ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/865 "2012-09-13T14:51:16Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > That doesn’t excuse her massive brane fart to begin with, hence my inclusion here. I got to start my day with a good chuckle. Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/866 "2012-09-13T16:55:58Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Isn’t that the buyer’s problem? Yes, which would be us if we bought a new home. > [@](#): > > Curlie, what exactly are you drowning in if you have no income and your property tax is apparently reasonable? Are you really that dumb or have you not read the thread? > [@elucidator](#): > > Take out all the stuff centered around **curlcoat** , in it only is one page… Fuck you. I didn’t even post to this thread until it was multi-paged, and it is certainly not my fault that idiots like you make it look like it’s centered around my one post. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/867 "2012-09-13T17:03:53Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Fuck you. I didn’t even post to this thread until it was multi-paged, and it is certainly not my fault that idiots like you make it look like it’s centered around my one post. The epic ignorance and vapid stupidity you bring to a thread is generally worth noting upon. Now why not scrounge around for paper towels and get yourself a nice lunch? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/868 "2012-09-13T17:10:48Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Yes, which would be us if we bought a new home. So rent if property tax is something you can’t afford. It’s not our fault if you can’t be bothered to solve your own problems. It’s really revealing, though, how when it’s other people, it’s their own fault but when it’s you, there are always extenuating services. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/869 "2012-09-14T07:59:23Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Wow, I just read this entire page and failed to find a single stupid liberal idea mentioned at all. Hell, I almost asked Curly to post a pic of her bare ass! [sub]and I voted for Ralph, that one time…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/870 "2012-09-14T13:26:15Z")
> [@Inner Stickler](#): > > It’s really revealing, though, how when it’s other people, it’s their own fault but when it’s you, there are always extenuating services. “Fundamental attribution error” just about sums up conservative politics. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/871 "2012-09-14T13:48:05Z")
Heh. Also services? Was I drunk yesterday? That should say circumstances. Jesus, I never should have left the house. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/872 "2012-09-14T16:08:00Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > So rent if property tax is something you can’t afford. It’s not our fault if you can’t be bothered to solve your own problems. It’s really revealing, though, how when it’s other people, it’s their own fault but when it’s you, there are always extenuating services. Jesus Christ, is it that you can’t read or you don’t understand the written word? No where have I said that was can’t afford our property tax, and I have specifically told _you_ that we live within our means and can afford to pay our bills. Try reading instead of just making shit up - again, if your argument is so weak that you have to make up stories, maybe you should quit trying? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/873 "2012-09-14T16:09:29Z")
So what are you drowning in, then? What taxes are so onerous on you? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/874 "2012-09-14T16:11:01Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > So what are you drowning in, then? Dog semen? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/875 "2012-09-14T16:13:12Z")
Yeah, Babe, your arguements are so forceful, so compelling, so damned RIGHT, that we have to make shit up in order to mount a feeble counter-argument:rolleyes: Suffice it to say, you and I live in the same state, but I don’t recognize \*your \*California, and I wish you’d move or STFU. Failing that, how about you post only about ideas for awhile, and try to keep your personal narrative discreet for awhile. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/876 "2012-09-14T16:15:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Dog semen? Okay, eww. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/877 "2012-09-14T16:18:42Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Isn’t that the buyer’s problem? Yes it is, but i’m not sure how that rebuts or contradicts anything i said. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/878 "2012-09-14T16:20:59Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Isn’t that the buyer’s problem? Yes it is, but i’m not sure how that rebuts or contradicts anything i said. **42fish** expressed some doubt that one could pay more property taxes in a cheaper house. I was simply pointing that in California it is, in fact, possible to sell your house, move into a smaller and cheaper house, and still end up paying more in property taxes. ETA: Sorry for the double-post. Screwed up editing. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/879 "2012-09-14T16:31:26Z")
I was looking at it from the point of view of the property already owned as opposed to the property one is looking to buy. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/880 "2012-09-14T16:33:19Z")
😕 Are you saying **curlcoat** should have considered what here property taxes would be in 2012 when she bought the house in 1985or whenever? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=45)