# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1081 "2013-07-25T14:53:10Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > You are forgetting that at least half of those who dislike it, dislike it because it does not go far **enough** and they want real single-payer UHC. He also continues to ignore that the very words he uses are straight out of Andrew Breitbart’s ass. “Obamacare was rammed down our throats” was a phrase repeated by every RW media outlet and lo, the very same words emerge from their viewers and listeners unaltered without benefit of any critical filter. As near as I’m able to tell “rammed down our throats” means “passed by majorities in both houses even though we tried to stop them”. As for “the left does stupid things on a daily basis”, that was the premise **Clothahump** started this thread on and yet pretty much every example he’s offered has failed miserably. Surely if there are so many to choose from he could post a few more and actually articulate why they’re stupid (by which I mean something more substantive than “Just look at it! Of course it’s stupid!”). I’m not holding my breath though - I’ve posted more examples of stupid Democrats than he’s managed to. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1082 "2013-07-25T15:02:30Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > You are forgetting that at least half of those who dislike it, dislike it because it does not go far **enough** and they want real single-payer UHC. Not forgetting, ignoring. I’d be surprised, to the point of almost being willing to wager cash, if this wasn’t pointed out to Clothahump at least a half dozen times. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1083 "2013-07-25T15:12:39Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > There is a reason that the rest of Texas refers to it as The People’s Republic of Austin… Because it’s actually democratic? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1084 "2013-07-25T15:46:51Z")
Progressive thinkers pride themselves as being on the side of science and reason, in contrast to Republicans who embrace Creationism, etc. However a thread in Great Debates has reminded me that there are some issues where it is conservatives who follow reason, while liberals reject science and common-sense in the name of “political correctness.” A case in point is the differing roles of father and mother in a nuclear family. Conservatives favor “tradition.” Liberals demand that father and mother have equal roles. Yet equality doesn’t make sense rationally. Men and women do not have equal physiology, hormonal balance, or emotional instincts. The GOP’s support for lowering women’s wages to encourage them to stay home is wrong, but so is the liberal idea that work and home duties are best split equally. As usual, reality is more complicated that political stereotypes. (Of course, even though they may start from an intellectually superior position in this one case, the GOP is quick to sacrifice the moral high ground. It is the GOP which ridicules single mothers and delights in putting financial obstacles in their path.) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1085 "2013-07-25T15:56:48Z")
That may be a liberal _stereotype_, but is it a liberal _idea_? Have any prominent liberals explicitly advanced a demand for legal requirements for equal division of housework? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1086 "2013-07-25T16:20:06Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > That may be a liberal _stereotype_, but is it a liberal _idea_? Have any prominent liberals explicitly advanced a demand for legal requirements for equal division of housework? Well, it’s more of a **cultural** demand, by feminists, which other liberals generally accept in principle (if not performance) for lack of any apparent good reason not to. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1087 "2013-07-25T16:26:41Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > The genuine stupidity in politics from the left happens on a daily basis. It’s almost overwhelming. Take Obamacare for example. A horrible piece of legislation that got rammed down our throats. Only 37% of the public thinks it’s a good idea. And yet, efforts to repeal it are continually rebuffed by the libs in Congress. > > Etc, etc, ad fucking nauseam. You’re funny. Do you ever break character? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1088 "2013-07-25T16:26:52Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, it’s more of a **cultural** demand, by feminists, which other liberals generally accept in principle (if not performance) for lack of any apparent good reason not to. So what prominent liberal _feminists_ are advocating for this law? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1089 "2013-07-25T16:50:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So what prominent liberal _feminists_ are advocating for this law? Nobody demands a **law,** it’s just that feminists in general think that’s how things should be in American domestic culture. It has been so since the 1970s. Remember [_Free to Be . . . You and Me_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_to_Be..._You_and_Me)? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1090 "2013-07-25T16:56:05Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Nobody demands a **law,** it’s just that feminists in general think that’s how things should be in American domestic culture. It has been so since the 1970s. Remember [_Free to Be . . . You and Me_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_to_Be..._You_and_Me)? Your cite that prominent feminists today are pushing for this is a children’s book from 1972 written by That Girl? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1091 "2013-07-25T16:56:09Z")
Huh, so _that’s_ when America became the minion of Satan. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1092 "2013-07-25T17:04:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Huh, so _that’s_ when America became the minion of Satan. It’s when we went awry\*. \*pronounced “AW-ree” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1093 "2013-07-25T17:09:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Your cite that prominent feminists today are pushing for this is a children’s book from 1972 written by That Girl? No, that’s my cite that a more or less equal division of housework has always been a basic principle of American feminists ever since the 1970s. Prominent feminists today? I don’t know if they even bother to say it any more, since everyone already knows they think it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1094 "2013-07-25T17:14:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, that’s my cite that a more or less equal division of housework has always been a basic principle of American feminists ever since the 1970s. Prominent feminists today? I don’t know if they even bother to say it any more, since everyone already knows they think it. Surely if “they” are all thinking it, you can find something contemporary from a modern prominent feminist pushing the idea? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1095 "2013-07-25T17:16:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Surely if “they” are all thinking it, you can find something contemporary from a modern prominent feminist pushing the idea? Don’t ask me, I can’t even **name** a prominent modern feminist. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1096 "2013-07-25T17:22:17Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Don’t ask me, I can’t even **name** a prominent modern feminist. I thought maybe you had caught some of their names while you were reading their minds: > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I don’t know if they even bother to say it any more, since everyone already knows they think it. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1097 "2013-07-25T18:38:15Z")
And here I was supposed to clean the bathroom today while my wife goes to work. Can’t wait to tell her I didn’t do it because it was a stupid idea!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1098 "2013-07-25T18:40:48Z")
Pics, or it didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1099 "2013-07-25T18:43:01Z")
Do you want pics of him saying it, or pics of the smeared mess left on the wall after he says it? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1100 "2013-07-25T19:29:42Z")
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