# Stupid liberal idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1281 "2013-10-07T19:57:02Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> In actuality, it’s really more a matter of the content to value ratio. You post a lot of shit, is all. None of it with any substance, and mostly not even with any semblance of a connection to reality. It’s almost as if the white panel van you troll the neighborhoods with gets nothing but AM radio and is stuck on the station that plays Rush Limbaugh et al.

And I see, from month to month, and year to year, it’s always the same trolls spewing the same tired ass shit.

I just got tired of it. Arguing the same bullshit with the same assholes all the time. I was checking in to see if things had changed, didn’t expect them to, my expectations were met. Maybe you aren’t sick of it yet, but I am. Always the same Tea Bagger Retardicans spewing the same lies.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1282 "2013-10-07T20:02:47Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Guys, on this point Starving Artist (re: Woody Allen and Soon-Yi) is essentially correct. There’s more creepiness to it than he is acknowledging, but he’s got the basic facts correct.
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> Please, never, ever make me have to type “Starving Artist” “is” and “correct” in the same sentence ever again\*…
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> \*ETA: Unless I get to include the word “not,” of course.

He was not correct in equating the Woody Allen situation with the Mia Farrow one. So, neener, neener!

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1283 "2013-10-07T20:09:14Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Guys, on this point Starving Artist (re: Woody Allen and Soon-Yi) is essentially correct. There’s more creepiness to it than he is acknowledging, but he’s got the basic facts correct.
> 
> Please, never, ever make me have to type “Starving Artist” “is” and “correct” in the same sentence ever again\*…
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> \*ETA: Unless I get to include the word “not,” of course.

I’ve not been acknowledging it because no creepiness is involved. Soon-Yi herself has said that during her time in the Farrow household Allen was scarcely around, that his and Farrow’s relationship had run its course and they were just going through the motions, and that on the occasions when he was there his focus was on his own children and that he had little interaction with her. She called the idea he was her dad laughable.

It might be worth noting also that Sinatra had known Mia Farrow through her father from the age of ten. Why no “creepiness” over that fact or the fact that they were in a sexual relationship when she was younger than Soon-Yi with Allen?

Well, I’ll tell ya why! A lot of people made a whole lot of erroneous assumptions about the nature of the various relationships in the Farrow household, and, loving salaciousness, self-righteousness and moral judgementalism as they do, are loathe to let go of the false ideas they used to condemn Woody Allen and call him a creep when all he did in reality is fall in love with his girlfriend’s adult daughter.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1284 "2013-10-07T20:11:10Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Always the same Tea Bagger Retardicans spewing the same lies.

That’s just not true!

On rare occasions, one of them thinks up an entirely new, original lie!

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1285 "2013-10-07T20:14:06Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> If you’re the age of the _father_, then yes, it is.

Funny, I haven’t heard you utter a word against 50 year old Frank Sinatra for his relationship with 19 year old Mia Farrow.

And as far as I’m concerned, if both people are adults their ages shouldn’t matter to anyone but them.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1286 "2013-10-07T20:19:48Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> He was not correct in equating the Woody Allen situation with the Mia Farrow one. So, neener, neener!

Yes I was. At the time 19 year old Mia Farrow set about seducing Sinatra by flouncing around on set in see-through dresses with nothing underneath and began sleeping with him at his home in Palm Springs, she was a year younger than 20 year old Soon-Yi at the time her romance with Allen began.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1287 "2013-10-07T20:21:14Z")

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Sigh … do I have to specifically denounce \*every \*creepy act? For _you_, of all people?

Get help, pervert.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1288 "2013-10-07T20:22:20Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> At the time 19 year old Mia Farrow set about seducing Sinatra by flouncing around on set in see-through dresses with nothing underneath

Did you write that before after ejaculating?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1289 "2013-10-07T20:23:56Z")

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Well, now you’ve done it! Revealed to the set of Doper cutie pies that you are available, the floodgates are open!

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1290 "2013-10-07T20:26:16Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> And I see, from month to month, and year to year, it’s always the same trolls spewing the same tired ass shit.
> 
> I just got tired of it. Arguing the same bullshit with the same assholes all the time. I was checking in to see if things had changed, didn’t expect them to, my expectations were met. Maybe you aren’t sick of it yet, but I am. Always the same Tea Bagger Retardicans spewing the same lies.

Oh, horseshit! This whole thing started because a few of the board’s liberals were whinging about eevil businessmen cutting back on worker hours to avoid Obamacare obligations. I posted a link to Obama saying it wasn’t a problem, and here we are, with absolutely no one addressing that question, and instead, a flock of my age old enemies have flooded into the thread spouting their same tired, worn-out bullshit. Your side is no better, chum. That’s a lesson I learned decades ago.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1291 "2013-10-07T20:32:08Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Oh, horseshit! This whole thing started because a few of the board’s liberals were whinging about eevil businessmen cutting back on worker hours to avoid Obamacare obligations. I posted a link to Obama saying it wasn’t a problem, and here we are, with absolutely no one addressing that question, and instead, a flock of my age old enemies have flooded into the thread spouting their same tired, worn-out bullshit. Your side is no better, chum. That’s a lesson I learned decades ago.

Actually I cited why what the president say was accurate, no, not what you claimed what he said, what he actually said.

And there were were no insults on that post, what I always like to do is to post a cite supporting what I claim, and I wait to see if the opponent acknowledges what was reported or the opponent just doubles down on the misleading information like an idiot.

All can see the choice that \*\*you \*\*decided to take.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1292 "2013-10-07T20:42:28Z")

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No, you appeared to want to use the fact that the president said there was no widespread evidence of it to behave as though I claimed he said no evidence of it. I replied that “no widespread evidence” in itself implies that it’s going on somewhat. To the best of my recollection you had nothing to say after that and I put the whole thing down to English not being your first language.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1293 "2013-10-07T20:46:40Z")

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Obviously Frank could not have had sex with Mia because of the cardboard tubes. They don’t reach. Please don’t judge me! It was all an experiment, I tell you! And I did it in the '50s when men were men and could have sex with anyone they wanted to because they were polite, there was no crime and coloreds knew their place.

You liberals just do not understand.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1294 "2013-10-07T20:58:54Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No, you appeared to want to use the fact that the president said there was no widespread evidence of it to behave as though I claimed he said no evidence of it. I replied that “no widespread evidence” in itself implies that it’s going on somewhat. To the best of my recollection you had nothing to say after that and I put the whole thing down to English not being your first language.

Well, you were wrong then, and everyone can see that I did point at evidence that showed the report from FOX was misleading.

And so it follows that all your double downs were also misleading and continue to be so, it is not my problem that it makes you look stupid for continuing to ignore what was posted to counteract the misrepresentations from FOX.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1295 "2013-10-07T22:00:17Z")

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Okay, so Obama said that there is no widespread evidence that the ACA is hurting jobs, and in fact there is no widespread evidence that the ACA is hurting jobs. In fact, nobody has provided any limited, circumscribed or otherwise un-widespread evidence either.

Perhaps Starving for Adolescents can also remind us how Obama oversaw the killing of Bin Laden and reversed the economic travesty he inherited too.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1296 "2013-10-07T23:31:13Z")

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Damn, almost 1300 posts and I still haven’t seen a genuinely stupid liberal idea posted. I want my money back!

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1297 "2013-10-08T00:06:08Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I’ve not been acknowledging it because no creepiness is involved…all he did in reality is fall in love with his girlfriend’s adult daughter.

Which is slightly creepy, even when all involved are adults. Surely you can see that.

Nothing legally wrong with it, of course.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1298 "2013-10-08T00:10:05Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Damn, almost 1300 posts and I still haven’t seen a genuinely stupid liberal idea posted. I want my money back!

I think there have been a couple, but not many.

I for one am happy to point out liberal stupidity. There _are_ examples, and it behooves any group of thinking people to prune out the stupid ideas. (Something the conservatives have forgotten lately.)

What you have in this thread, though, are conservatives being too stupid to even come up with solid examples of something stupid liberals have said or done. In other words, they’re too stupid to find the stupid.\*

Which is remarkable, needless to say.

\*Eta: although, to be fair, some of the truly smart conservatives on the SDMB haven’t bothered to post in this thread.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1299 "2013-10-08T00:28:59Z")

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Neither of them, actually.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1300 "2013-10-08T00:31:55Z")

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In fairness, there was that congressman a few years back who was afraid that sending too many troops to Haiti (I think) might cause the island to flip over. That would have been 100% dead at home in the SRIotD thread.

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