# Stupid liberal idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086 "2011-04-20T15:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 93
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1841 "2014-06-10T14:57:35Z")
Okay, so McKeon just… made it up. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1842 "2014-06-10T15:02:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Okay, so McKeon just… made it up. Who the hell knows? Republican congressmen don’t exactly have the greatest track record of not making things up. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1843 "2014-06-10T15:05:01Z")
The same can be said of this administration. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1844 "2014-06-10T15:07:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Okay, so McKeon just… made it up. If you mean that the Sec of Defense executed the president’s decision\*, no I don’t think McKeon’s making that up. McKeon’s interpretation of that? That I think he’s making up. (\*As noted back in #1838) ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1845 "2014-06-10T15:08:43Z")
And Uri Geller says he can bend metal with his mind. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1846 "2014-06-10T15:11:12Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > If you mean that the Sec of Defense executed the president’s decision\*, no I don’t think McKeon’s making that up. McKeon’s interpretation of that? That I think he’s making up. > > (\*As noted back in #1838) “Hagel made the final call” means Hagel could have nixed the deal. That firmly places the onus on Hagel. I guess we’ll find out in the coming days. The polling looks bad for this fiasco, so I’m sure the President’s political team is thinking of something now. Hopefully it won’t be “Blame it on someone else” like they usually do. I’d at least like some creativity in bullshit manufacturing. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1847 "2014-06-10T15:21:04Z")
“Hagel made the final call” means Hagel got on the phone and said “The President says “Do it.”” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1848 "2014-06-10T15:24:06Z")
A Secretary can overrule the President? Really? A remarkable physiology you have, \*\*adaher \*\*- there’s a channel straight from your ass to your fingers, completely bypassing your brain. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1849 "2014-06-10T15:27:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Okay, so McKeon just… made it up. He’s a house republican, so I’m just going to assume he lied. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1850 "2014-06-10T15:34:08Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > your brain. Again, objection! Same grounds. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1851 "2014-06-10T15:37:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > A remarkable physiology you have, \*\*adaher \*\*- there’s a channel straight from your ass to your fingers, completely bypassing your brain. I though **adaher** ’s positions came from Sean Hannity. Not that it would make much difference in the actual outcome. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1852 "2014-06-10T15:49:28Z")
Do we have any proof **adaher** _isn’t_ Sean Hannity? Has anybody ever seen them together? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1853 "2014-06-10T15:51:50Z")
That would explain his inability to spell McAuliffe - he’s never seen the name in print, only heard it spoken. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1854 "2014-06-10T15:59:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Do we have any proof **adaher** _isn’t_ Sean Hannity? Has anybody ever seen them together? In fairness, **adaher** has on occasion showed (largely atrophied but existent) senses of shame and humor, which pretty well rules him out as Hannity. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1855 "2014-06-10T16:56:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Okay, so McKeon just… made it up. Possibly. Or he chose to spin what he’d heard. Or he was confused. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1856 "2014-06-10T17:46:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Possibly. Or he chose to spin what he’d heard. Or he was confused. Spin? That’s putting it kindly. Twisting factual information to suit his version of reality seems to be his go-to strategy. He’s just continuing in his battle to “unskew the polls” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1857 "2014-06-10T19:38:51Z")
Yeah, but reporting on it at least means that now you can’t defend the President if he does decide to blame it on Hagel. You’re already on record as saying it’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1858 "2014-06-10T20:00:28Z")
The right may not be composed entirely of bigots, but those whom they elect are surely not without racial bias. To be fair, probably no one is utterly devoid of racist attitudes; even the liberals/progressives are vulnerable to prejudice of the same kind. But even a casual glance at history shows that the GOP has, in it’s pursuit of something called “true conservatism”, turned-in upon itself and now has what resembles a country club rather than a political party. The Democratic party has a much bigger tent and does not require strict adherence to party identity or a litmus test to prove it’s liberal authenticity. The term “liberal” has been smeared by Fox and others propaganda organizations and that word has become pejorative to many. Look-up the dictionary definition of liberal; all the similes are positive. The only thing conservatives conserve is their wealth, their time-honored values (like slavery), and their certainty that God favors the greedy. I don’t hate Republicans. But I can find no reason to respect their views or those of their party’s leaders. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1859 "2014-06-10T20:38:59Z")
The Democratic tent is bigger because it has to be. The Republican Party can win elections with conservatives plus a few moderates. Democrats need the liberals plus most of the moderates. So the two parties’ electoral strategies are geared towards those realities. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086/1860 "2014-06-10T20:48:35Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The Democratic tent is bigger because it has to be. The Republican Party can win elections with conservatives plus a few moderates. Democrats need the liberals plus most of the moderates. So the two parties’ electoral strategies are geared towards those realities. The Republicans can’t win Presidential elections with their current coalition. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=92) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-liberal-idea-of-the-day/579086.md?page=94)