# Stupid little crotchspawn **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656 "2005-11-18T16:08:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lexi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lexi/32/6806_2.png) [@lexi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lexi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/41 "2005-11-18T22:27:19Z")
I personally didn’t think csharpmajor was being racist, I assumed that csharpmajor is also of the same culture from this quote: > [@](#): > > Chinese people don’t seem to be in the habit of using napkins. We just keep 'em on the table to wipe our hands with. Although stereotyping within your own culture is still not politically correct - it isn’t racism. ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/42 "2005-11-18T22:48:00Z")
To quote Dorothy Sayers: > [@](#): > > The Pert age, which follows upon this…, is characterized by contradicting, answering back, liking to “catch people out” (especially one’s elders); and by the propounding of conundrums. Its nuisance-value is extremely high. It usually sets in about the Fourth Form. Eleven-year-olds are natural nuisances. Smart 11-yo’s who belong to families in which smart=best are especially annoying. He’ll probably either grow out of it or have no friends. But this is a good age to hand him a book on logic. Give it to him for a Christmas present! Then run away so he can practice on someone else. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/43 "2005-11-18T22:53:54Z")
Heh. I forgot to include the follow-up to that quote, after Sayers encourages you to make Pert children study and argue: > [@](#): > > It will, doubtless, be objected that to encourage young persons at the Pert age to browbeat, correct, and argue with their elders will render them perfectly intolerable. My answer is that children of that age are intolerable anyhow; and that their natural argumentativeness may just as well be canalized to good purpose as allowed to run away into the sands. It may, indeed, be rather less obtrusive at home if it is disciplined in school; and anyhow, elders who have abandoned the wholesome principle that children should be seen and not heard have no one to blame but themselves. And, the [essay](http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html), if you want a citation. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/44 "2005-11-18T22:56:53Z")
> [@csharpmajor](#): > > Chinese people don’t seem to be in the habit of using napkins. We just keep 'em on the table to wipe our hands with. Which I suppose we could still do if they were on our laps, so I guess we have been logic’d. > Because he is ASIAN. Nonsensical and borderline racist as this sounds, believe me, it is significant. Oh-WELL. That explains everything, doesn’t it. If I had known he was Asian from the OP-I wouldn’t have even posted. Pssst-sarcasm for the challenged. I feel sorry for the kid–his parents may only give him attention/love for that aspect of himself. Not a pretty picture. ---
**Author:** ![VegemiteMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@VegemiteMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegemiteMoose)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/45 "2005-11-18T23:03:10Z")
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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/46 "2005-11-19T02:34:59Z")
[QUOTE=Sunspace] > [@Lynn Bodoni](#): > > Okay, thanks. Maybe there is somewhere the online equivalent of the SDMB, but set up for kids… I don’t know. I always include the children’s forums when I search on this board, but I never find anything there. I also think “eats stupid food for breakfast” will come in very handy. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/47 "2005-11-19T05:10:07Z")
I don’t get why this has turned into a discussion about parental pressure. The whole point is that he doesn’t need to put in any effort to do well where he is and he likes to brag about this. I also don’t much like the way you all say I’m stereotyping when you’re assuming all Asian kids must be under incredible pressure. At our school there were the happy overachievers and the unhappy overachievers and yeah, you could tell the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/48 "2005-11-19T05:23:24Z")
For what it’s worth, Ben sounds pretty insecure to me. He might also have some hero worship going on for you, **csharp** (or a big ol’ crush, if you’re a girl). In other words, there’s (probably) nothing wrong with him that time won’t fix. Besides, putting up with him will be good practice for when you get a job. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/49 "2005-11-19T12:10:45Z")
Yes, I’d say that an 11 year old that resorts to the intellectual equivalent of whipping out his dick to prove he’s smarter than a 6 year old does have some insecurity issues. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/50 "2005-11-19T12:18:58Z")
> [@csharpmajor](#): > > I don’t get why this has turned into a discussion about parental pressure. The whole point is that he doesn’t need to put in any effort to do well where he is and he likes to brag about this. I also don’t much like the way you all say I’m stereotyping when you’re assuming all Asian kids must be under incredible pressure. Well, for heaven’s sake. Dunno 'bout the rest of the Dopers here, but I don’t feel comfortable pitting an 11 year old child. He’s 11. He’s fat. He’s too smart for his age/developemental level/whatever. It’s obvious he has issues and is struggling–who didn’t at 11–or 16, I might add. Why don’t you take a long look in the mirror and figure out why you feel the need to beat up on a kid who is insecure, possibly physically unattractive and emotionally needy? IMO, you need to look at your need to ostracize this kid–does his behavior strike a nerve with you? Why? 11 is not in control of his destiny–11 is still subject to the whims and pressures that parents place. The same could be said of 16, really. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/51 "2005-11-19T13:47:17Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Well, for heaven’s sake. Dunno 'bout the rest of the Dopers here, but I don’t feel comfortable pitting an 11 year old child. He’s 11. He’s fat. He’s too smart for his age/developemental level/whatever. > > It’s obvious he has issues and is struggling–who didn’t at 11–or 16, I might add. > > Why don’t you take a long look in the mirror and figure out why you feel the need to beat up on a kid who is insecure, possibly physically unattractive and emotionally needy? > > IMO, you need to look at your need to ostracize this kid–does his behavior strike a nerve with you? Why? > > 11 is not in control of his destiny–11 is still subject to the whims and pressures that parents place. The same could be said of 16, really. Ostracise? No, no, he’s not at the age where he’d want anything to do with me anyway. I’d never say anything nasty to him in real life, but surely I’m allowed to let off steam on a message board he’ll never see, right? Plus you’re giving all these explanations, that he’s insecure or unloved or whatever which is fair enough, but it doesn’t actually do anything to change the fact that I find him intolerable. Just because he’s obnoxious doesn’t mean I’m obliged to like him for it. It makes no sense. It’s not that I can’t see what you’re saying, it’s that it makes no difference whatsoever. I think you think I’m being actively unfriendly towards him in real life. I’m not, honest. I acknowledge my tendency to be creatively wrathful online. In real life I am much calmer and more timid with a whole different set of personality flaws. I was bullied as a kid for being too smart and I know how it fells. I wouldn’t give anyone else crap over it. Hell, I _liked_ this kid for not being afraid to show his intelligence until I realised hang on, this kid ain’t right. It’s not just the ego-stoking. He CONSTANTLY puts down people around him for being “stupid”, he can never wait his turn, everything has to be about HIM, etc etc. Being “insecure” doesn’t magically make any of this acceptable. I reserve my right to dislike him. PS - Before you say “Well, at least you don’t LIVE with him,” yeah, I get to live with him for 3 weeks next month. We’re going on VACATION together. You know, I would actually like to tell him somehow that whipping out his intellectual penis is not a good way of impressing anyone but I can’t think of a nice way to say it. Maybe I should just convince him to sign up for Mensa. Around his age I found myself suddenly surrounded by smart kids for different reasons and became a much more tolerable person, but I was annoying for different reasons. I’m kind of scared of giving him something new to wank over. He’s 12, by the way. Did I say 11 earlier? I guess it doesn’t make that much of a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/52 "2005-11-19T14:25:31Z")
> [@csharpmajor](#): > > You know, I would actually like to tell him somehow that whipping out his intellectual penis is not a good way of impressing anyone but I can’t think of a nice way to say it. Bluntly. That’s how you say it. Not sarcastically, not sneeringly, not contemptuously. Just say to him at some point, when it’s just the two of you, “You know, I think you alienate people sometimes when you talk about how smart you are. You’re definitely smart, so don’t worry that folks won’t notice. If you’re humble about it, they’ll notice that, too, and **that** is what will really impress them. I wish someone had told ME that when I was your age.” **eleanor** , yes, pitting an 11-year-old is not the world’s best thing to do, but c’mon, it’s entirely appropriate for a 16-year-old to do. Part of being a kid is figuring out how to deal with your frustration with other kids; part of being a teenager is finding ways to separate yourself from childhood. Ain’t always pretty, but it’s necessary. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/53 "2005-11-19T14:42:45Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > If you like, come visit me here in Boulder and Ill be happy to introduce you to Asian pot-heads of less than perfect intelligence or industriousness happy to fuck up their lives by pulling 2.1’s, dropping out of school, getting knocked up at 18, or getting themselves head injuries by skateboarding off the loading docks sans helmets. Wow. Talk about fighting the good fight against racial stereotypes! ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/54 "2005-11-19T14:44:08Z")
Sorry, I meant the Asian kids pulling this shit, not **threemae**. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/55 "2005-11-19T19:29:50Z")
I just want to applaud dangermom for quoting Dorothy Sayers! I love the little of her I’ve read (mainly her C’tian essays, haven’t touched her Lord Wimsey novels). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/56 "2005-11-19T20:17:08Z")
Hell, he doesn’t sound much different from many eleven-year-olds I know. Kids that age are usually obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/57 "2005-11-19T21:52:20Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > **Wendy: … (quietly) Ben eats stupid food for breakfast.** > > GOLD! I think I have a new comeback. Sounds better if you say “ **Dumb Flakes** ”. Thank you, Garrison Keillor. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/58 "2005-11-20T12:59:58Z")
HE READS THE DOPE :eek: I showed him the site a few months ago. He didn’t seem interested. :smack: :smack: :smack: This thread is over. Great work, Ms “I don’t need to use fake names because they’ll never see this anyway.” Though he doesn’t seem to know about the forums yet. Thanks for the advice, by the way. I think my hatred of him has slowly melted away. But no more replies. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/59 "2005-11-20T14:30:25Z")
> [@csharpmajor](#): > > But no more replies. OK, I won’t reply. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656/60 "2005-11-20T15:01:14Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > OK, I won’t reply. Same, same… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-little-crotchspawn/331656.md?page=4)