# Stupid movie! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 5, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540 "2009-02-05T06:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/21 "2009-02-06T04:00:48Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > For the record, Ginnifer Goodwin plays Margene, the third wife in **Big Love**. And in that, she’s excellent. I don’t know what Big Love is. A TV show I assume? Oh Goodwin is a cutie pie, no doubt about that, and I hope to see a lot of her in the future, just as long as I never see her playing a character like this ever again. I thought at first that her adorable looks, bright eyes and infectious smile might temper my disgust with the character, but it didn’t. They probably made it worse, since I wanted to like her so much, but she couldn’t stop being a moron. Just when she seemed to be getting a clue, and turning into a real person, zoom, off she’d go again into idiot land. But I do want to make clear that I don’t blame an actor/actress for a character I hate (usually) and I especially don’t blame Ginnifer Goodwin for this one. She did what the script called for and did it well. I think it’s cool that she’s an unknown (generally unknown) who got to do this movie with all these other big name actors, and was pretty much the lead and the main focus of the film. Good for her. My only problem with casting was continually wondering why Jennifer Garner wasn’t playing Ben Affleck’s wife. He and Jennifer Aniston had zero chemistry, and I never could figure out why this guy was so devoted to her. But, it would have been smoking hot and understandable if he had been playing against someone sweet and beautiful and down-to-earth, that he also really truly loved. It would have elevated the movie for me. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/22 "2009-02-07T01:39:40Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Even more stupid was **Taken** , but at least in Taken, you got to see Liam Neeson kick ass. It was in service to a worthless lying bitch of a daughter, but it’s still a novel concept, so there was that. Do you mean that a lying bitch of a daughter is a novel concept, or Liam Neeson kicking ass? We just saw _Taken_, and in the long history of predictable, formulaic action revenge films, this one was the most predictable, most formulaic. Neeson was fine, but i sort of felt sorry for him because the movie was so appalling. I’m sure they used an Automatic Script Generator. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/23 "2009-02-07T01:48:34Z")
Wadda ya want? It’s Crapuary, which is like Craptember - one of the two periods when the studios dump the weak movies. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/24 "2009-02-07T02:20:18Z")
As I have pointed out here many a time, both [Alien](http://www.sff.net/people/rothman/alien.htm) and [Gattaca](http://www.sff.net/people/rothman/gattaca.htp) are incredibly stupid movie, both requiring that everyone involved be a complete and utter moron. ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/25 "2009-02-07T05:32:26Z")
> [@pbbth](#): > > There are a lot of women out there who have elevated this book to biblical status in their lives because they want a man to love them more than they want anything. There are also a lot of women in this world who want nothing more than to be the real life version of Carrie Bradshaw, and since this guy wrote for S&TC his book is basically the “How to Be Carrie Handbook” and all those women who wish they lived that life are buying the book in hopes that it will make them more like the girls on S&TC. > > I never picked up the book because I am a firm believer that if you play games and change the way you are to meet someone you are then either dumped once you stop playing games and get around to being yourself or you are stuck playing games every day for the rest of your life. That being said, I think the movie looks cute based on the previews and I am sad to see other people hated it so much. I have never read this book so I don’t know what I’m talking about, but I thought that what I picked up through auditory Oprah osmosis (TV on in the background) that the gist was that ‘hey, quit screwing around trying to figure out a guy that really just doesn’t want to date you because life is not that complicated.’ Am I wrong? Your description sounds like it is one of those “The Rules” type books. Have I cast my admiration in the wrong place? Because what I thought it was about sounded like a pretty good advice. Also, is this writer the same buy that has an annoying talk show that is on at something like 3 in the morning? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/26 "2009-02-07T10:32:09Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Do you mean that a lying bitch of a daughter is a novel concept, or Liam Neeson kicking ass? Liam Neeson kicking ass. He’s kicked ass in other movies, Excalibur, Rob Roy, Gangs of New York, others I can’t think of off the top of my head, but not like this. This was true modern ass-kicking and it was cool to watch, even though he would have been thrown into a maximum-security prison for the next 500 years in the real world. And could they have gotten a worse actress to play his daughter? I hated her, and didn’t believe for a second that he really loved her, she and Neeson had ZERO chemistry, but Liam Neeson was such a good actor and so professional he went above and beyond what the script called for in trying to make us believe he’d go through all this for her. > [@mhendo](#): > > We just saw _Taken_, and in the long history of predictable, formulaic action revenge films, this one was the most predictable, most formulaic. Neeson was fine, but i sort of felt sorry for him because the movie was so appalling. I’m sure they used an Automatic Script Generator. Oh yeah yeah yeah, exactly! I swear to god, I said the same thing! I leaned over to my friend and said, this is like they put some plot points into a computer program that then spit out this script! He agreed wholeheartedly. I hope Neeson got a paid a lot for it. He earned it. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/27 "2009-02-07T10:59:38Z")
Heh. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but your description is exactly what I was expecting from the trailer, in which all the characters are already seen acting stupidly. I think that’s the point - to laugh at the stupid thing people do when they are dating. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/28 "2009-02-07T11:11:53Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > It will take a lot of sex for my husband to forgive me for dragging him to it. I just wanted to drop in to say that it is unfortunate that this attitude is not adopted universally. Have you thought about writing an advice book for married women? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/29 "2009-02-07T12:36:40Z")
_laugh_ I wouldn’t presume. We are, and our relationship is, unlike any I’ve ever known or heard about. And by the way, that was truly a joke, with no truth at the core. My husband would never expect sex as a penance. That’s a game too, and we don’t play relationship games, even in jest. > [@jackdavinci](#): > > Heh. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but your description is exactly what I was expecting from the trailer, in which all the characters are already seen acting stupidly. I think that’s the point - to laugh at the stupid thing people do when they are dating. Right. And by the end they’ve all learned and grown and Come To Understand What They’re Doing Wrong, but it was all so distasteful to me that the end didn’t redeem anything. I still wanted to smack most of them. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/30 "2009-02-07T19:31:11Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > **Shallow Hall**. Every character in that movie needed to die a horrible and painfull death. I’m assuming you mean **Shallow Hal**. I liked it. It’s actually got a pretty good message. I don’t remember laughing hysterically or anything, but I was pleasantly surprised. My nomination for horrible (most recent) movie I’ve seen is _A Lot Like Love_ with Ashton Kutcher. I consider him a decent actor, liked _Guess Who_ quite a bit, was impressed by _Butterfly Effect_. A friend loaned it to us, a friend whose judgment we trusted. I’m pretty sure I made it to the end, but only to sort of prove how tough I am. Oh so boring, oh so nauseating, with terrible chemistry between the main characters. I hate romantic comedies as a general rule. Also, I think _Gattica_ is a damn good movie. I know most of the people in CS are finely-tuned, sharply-honed critics, but I just like movies. It takes a lot for me to say, ‘‘What a piece of shit.’’ ---
**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/31 "2009-02-07T20:05:26Z")
Drop Dead Fred and Toys are at the top of my stupid movies list. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/32 "2009-02-08T04:14:38Z")
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/33 "2009-02-08T05:14:15Z")
I remember sitting in History 150 while the girl in front of me was reading **He’s just not…** and being appalled at what was written (and by a guy!!?!!?!). For those who don’t know it goes something like this: \*If you are dating and the guy doesn’t compliment your necklace after 1 hour he’s not that into you…break up If you meet a guy and he looks at your friend first, then you, says hi to you, looks back at your friend, then gives you his number…he likes your friend more…don’t date him. If your boyfriend gives you less than 6 roses on your third date…he’s not that into you…break up.\* They are absolute crap “laws”. It teaches a girl to nitpick every freakin thing a guy does and then not date/break up cuz we are apparently not in to you girls…God it’s stupid. I must be a bad mid-twenties kid cuz I HATED **Napoleon Dynamite** , and VASTLY LOOKED DOWN on **Superbad**. The first was boring one-liner forgettable comedy, while the second was just an excuse to say “fuck” and make a 90 minute movie 120+ ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/34 "2009-02-08T11:00:01Z")
[complete hijack] **Equipoise** , every time I see your name, in my head I say **Snicklefritz**. 😃 [/complete hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/35 "2009-02-08T19:45:45Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I don’t know what Big Love is. A TV show I assume? Yeah. It’s about a polygamous family in Utah. ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540/36 "2009-02-08T19:54:49Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I remember sitting in History 150 while the girl in front of me was reading **He’s just not…** and being appalled at what was written (and by a guy!!?!!?!). For those who don’t know it goes something like this: > > \*If you are dating and the guy doesn’t compliment your necklace after 1 hour he’s not that into you…break up > > If you meet a guy and he looks at your friend first, then you, says hi to you, looks back at your friend, then gives you his number…he likes your friend more…don’t date him. > > If your boyfriend gives you less than 6 roses on your third date…he’s not that into you…break up.\* > > They are absolute crap “laws”. It teaches a girl to nitpick every freakin thing a guy does and then not date/break up cuz we are apparently not in to you girls…God it’s stupid. > > I must be a bad mid-twenties kid cuz I HATED **Napoleon Dynamite** , and VASTLY LOOKED DOWN on **Superbad**. The first was boring one-liner forgettable comedy, while the second was just an excuse to say “fuck” and make a 90 minute movie 120+ Wow, that is not what I thought it was about at all. I mean, I thought it was the same idea but not those stupid rules BS. I was thinking more along the lines of not wasting time trying to force a relationship with someone just to have a relationship. I did not realize that was measured in # of roses on third dates. Just wow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-movie/484540.md?page=1)