# Stupid people that should be put across the knees and spanked with the broom handle

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2005, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545 "2005-12-01T12:15:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/141 "2005-12-03T22:09:48Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> What’s a ‘stenuous argument’ anyways?

If we’re going to pick on typos, we’ll be here all day, **Finn**. You’re a typo king, though IIRC you blame it on dyslexia.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> And if you’re bitching about my conduct in the Pit then I suggest that you find another folder.

I’m not bitching about your conduct. I am apologizing for not warning others before you shit all over them as is your wont when the opportunity is presented. And letting you know that others may see you differently than you see yourself. And letting **cthiax** know that I appreciated the posts s/he made.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Do you want flame free sharing of opinions? Post in IMHO.  
> Do you want flame free debate? Post in GD.  
> Do you want flame free discussion of an issue that’s interesting you? Post in MPSIMS.
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> But it’s absurd to go to the Pit and get on someone’s case for ~gasp!~ flaming someone. That’s part of what this forum is for. If you don’t like it, don’t post or read in it.

I’m entitled to respond to your posts. If you don’t like it, start your own message board and exclude me from membership.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> You’re also making up your argument out of wholecloth. That you ‘believe’ it doesn’t matter. I disagree with people all the time without ‘melting’ down. Yes, even in the Pit. So if all you’re complaining about is that people who piss me off get flamed, in the Pit, then I will again suggest that you should be reading and posting in another forum.

I don’t care if you flame people, but I do care when you mischarachterize other posters’ arguments.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> No, you agreed with the bullshit that I do it “whenever” I’m disagreed with. See, much like other instances I have not somehow ‘misread’ or ‘mischaracterized’ your post. Although you might not have said what you meant to. That isn’t my fault, I’m not a mindreader. But evidently you think you are a mindreader. :rolleyes:

I agree you have a habit. Since you are stuck on the word “whenever”, I will retract my agreement with Excalibre and say you have a habit of doing this when you think you can get away with it.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Again, this is stupid bullshit. I choose a side based on backers? Do you read things, or just make shit up because it sounds good? Sorry if you view me flaming a pro intentional-baby-maimer in the Pit, of all places, as ‘contemptous’, but you’ll pardon me if I don’t give a damn.

I stated that you become more of an asshole when you have other folks on your side, or can be fairly well assured that you won’t be taken to task for your behavior.

And again, **cthiax** did not advance a pro-baby maiming viewpoint. You, sir, are mischaracterizing the posts again. Read for comprehension, not for potential offense\*.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Your lack of vision does not constitute a pattern of behavior on my part.

Got anything better than that? This line-by line-response shit sucks sometimes doesn’t it?

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> And I think you’re a moron who’s projecting some personal issues onto me. And again, stop being a whiner. If you don’t want to see people flaming, don’t post int he Pit.

This is the appropriate venue for telling you that you are being a tool.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Which, again, makes you a fucking moron. I’ve gotten into knock down drag out debates with a good number of people. **Liberal** included.

Ooooh, tough guy! Anybody can pick on **Liberal** ; he’s an easy target and there will always be someone to back you up if you disagree with him. I’m not impressed because you were willing to go toe-to-toe with **Liberal** \*\*.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Oh please. :rolleyes: You’re pathetic, you view my respect for **Miller** as cowardice? Just how stupid can you get? You’re also a liar. I most certainly “took on” **Miller**. Or did you miss that I was diagreeing with him? Fool.

I didn’t miss you disagreeing with him; I noted that you were polite cuz he’d kick your online ass.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Yep, that you’re a petty asshole who shouldn’t be posting in the Pit lest it bruise your delicate sensibilities. Take that for what it’s worth.

Uh-huh.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Then report me you stupid son of a bitch and quit whining about it.

I prefer the members police the board to the extent possible by calling assholes to task in the Pit. I said that IMO you were coming close the line–if IMO you cross it, I’ll report your chickenshit ass in a hot second.  
\*I know you are not part of the offenderati, so skip that little rant back.

\*\*And thanks for invoking him, by the way–I wonder where the thread will go next.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/142 "2005-12-03T22:54:28Z")

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> [@stretch](#):
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> If we’re going to pick on typos, we’ll be here all day, **Finn**. You’re a typo king, though IIRC you blame it on dyslexia.

Good show spunky, I am indeed dyslexic. The point, however, was that whether it was a typo or not it was stupid. I hade a ‘vigorously active’ argument? And that’s somehow a bad thing? If you say so chief.

> [@stretch](#):
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> I’m not bitching about your conduct.

:dubious:  
Remember when I called you a liar? Shall I add the adjective ‘oblivious’ to ‘liar’?

> [@stretch](#):
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> I’m entitled to respond to your posts. If you don’t like it, start your own message board and exclude me from membership.

I never said you can’t respond to my posts, merely that you’re a whiney bitch who would obviously be happier not reading the Pit. If you don’t like the Pit, don’t post in it. Unless you’re a masochist and you’re into that sort of thing I guess.

But it is stupid to come into the Pit and stand on ceremony because, miracle of miracles, there’s flaming going on.

> [@stretch](#):
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> I don’t care if you flame people, but I do care when you mischarachterize other posters’ arguments.

You keep babbling about that. Where did I make one single mistake?

> [@stretch](#):
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> I agree you have a habit. Since you are stuck on the word “whenever”, I will retract my agreement with Excalibre and say you have a habit of doing this when you think you can get away with it.

Yes Kreskin what else does your crystal ball see? :rolleyes:  
I can **always** get away with disagreeing with anybody because I always back up my arguments and I never check to see who else is supporting my position because I’m perfectly capable of doing it all by my lonsesome.

If you have a pack mentality, kindly keep it to yourself and don’t ascribe it to me spunky.

> [@stretch](#):
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> I stated that you become more of an asshole when you have other folks on your side, or can be fairly well assured that you won’t be taken to task for your behavior.

Yes, and I said you’re a mindreading fool.  
This is a public message board genius, anybody can ‘take me to task’ whether or not they’ve been posting in the thread. And you are again showing how your prejudice against me overrules any rational sense. I have, many times, taken an unpopular or totally unsupported side in a debate because it’s what I believed.

> [@stretch](#):
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> And again, **cthiax** did not advance a pro-baby maiming viewpoint. You, sir, are mischaracterizing the posts again. Read for comprehension, not for potential offense\*.

You, sir, are dense. You should take your own advice and read for comprehension instead of finding fault with me. Deliberately indicuing birth defects is maiming a baby. His position was for deliberately inducing birth defects. Thus… :wally:

> [@stretch](#):
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> Got anything better than that?

I don’t _need_ anything better than that. Your stupidity and lack of vision does not constitute a pattern on my part. Simple.

> [@stretch](#):
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> This is the appropriate venue for telling you that you are being a tool.

Yes, you janus faced asshole, you’re telling me I’m being a tool for telling other people that they’re being tools, in the correct forum. Again, perhaps you should spend more time in MPSIMS.

> [@stretch](#):
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> Ooooh, tough guy! Anybody can pick on **Liberal** ; he’s an easy target and there will always be someone to back you up if you disagree with him. I’m not impressed because you were willing to go toe-to-toe with **Liberal**

Actually, fool, I’d say that **Lib** is one of those who I disagree with whose respect I’ve earned, and I don’t require or request ‘backup’. Nor would he most likely qualify our disagreements as ‘picking on’ him.

Again, if you’re so pathetic that you won’t enter a debate unless there are folks on your side (like right now), don’t ascribe that to me.

> [@stretch](#):
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> I didn’t miss you disagreeing with him; I noted that you were polite cuz he’d kick your online ass.

Again you mindreading fool, I was polite because I respect him. I’d be happy to debate with him any day of the week, and it’s just oh-so-very-cute that you’re rooting for someone to kick my ass.  
Since you obviously can’t.

> [@stretch](#):
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> Uh-huh.

Yuh-huh. Seriously, go to MPSIMS you whiner. “Oh my God, Finn is flaming someone who supports intentionally causing birth defects, and he’s doing it in the Pit! Let’s play armchair psychoanalyist!”

Pathetic.

> [@stretch](#):
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> I prefer the members police the board to the extent possible by calling assholes to task in the Pit. I said that IMO you were coming close the line–if IMO you cross it, I’ll report your chickenshit ass in a hot second.

Again Kreskin, you might wanna lay off the mindreading. I’m ‘chickenshit’ because… you see me making posts that other happen to agree with, and you happen to be a pack-level asshole who can’t function on your own? ~shrugs~

There is no ‘coming close to the line’ you asshole junior mod. Either it’s a rules violation, or it isn’t. So go fuck yourself sideways you cowardly hypocritical liar who couldn’t even Pit me or call me out until others had done it.

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/143 "2005-12-03T23:31:14Z")

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Thank you for your insight into my behavior in this thread. I have re-read your posts and mine and find you to be an even bigger ass than I thought. Congratulations, **FinnAgain** , you have lessened my opinion of you!

I felt moved to comment on your behavior in this thread and have done so. I could Pit you individually, but I don’t see the need for that; I am satisfied that others have noticed your behavior, in this thread and others, and will come to their own conclusions. If you don’t like it when someone responds to your behavior in a less-than-favorable manner, don’t post in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/144 "2005-12-03T23:46:26Z")

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Hey Finn - The problem is, is that you don’t understand the difference between flaming a person compared to a full blown, shrieking, hysterical, teeth gnashing, spit flying, meltdown.

Now please go wipe off your chin, you’re embarrassing yourself.

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/145 "2005-12-04T00:08:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> > [@me](#):
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> > I’m not bitching about your conduct.
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> > [@FinnAgain](#):
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> > Remember when I called you a liar? Shall I add the adjective ‘oblivious’ to ‘liar’?

Fuck, even after re-reading your stupid posts I missed this.

I can see that I mis-stated my position there in an effort to be brief. I’m not bitching about whether your conduct is appropriate for the Pit, I am bitching about your habit of going into foaming-at-the-keyboard meltdowns at times and your mischaracterization of others arguments–sometimes both at the same time. So I am complaining about your conduct, just not the conduct you think I am complaining about. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and allowing me to clarify my position.

\*If you think my various opinions of you seem contradictory, oh well; you’re _probably_ a complex person with more than one trait.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/146 "2005-12-04T02:18:00Z")

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> [@Diane](#):
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> Hey Finn - The problem is, is that you don’t understand the difference between flaming a person…

I was in complete contro, and fully rational, at all points, and vented my anger at people advocating intentionally causing birth defects. Sorry if I wasn’t polite enough for your tastes while flaming folks who want to cause birth defects to innocent children. Next time I’ll send them chocolate and flowers with a polite note asking them please not to support maiming babies.

There is a point where ‘tollerance’ because idiotic, and when it leads to someone excusing a crime against a defenseless child, I’ll damn well use every rhetorical tool in my arsenal. Should I ‘tollerate’ someone who wants to surgically remove a newborn’s eardrums while I’m at it, or should I react as if the people who support maiming babies are monsters? Not saying anything, or acctually supporting maiming babies would be far more embarrasing than finding it abhorent. Not, in any case, that your opinion is worth the elctrons it took to spout it off.

This is the Pit. If you can’t take me being furious at those who support causing birth defects on purpose, I’ll be happy to cry you a river.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/147 "2005-12-04T04:31:42Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I was in complete contro, and fully rational, at all points, and vented my anger at people advocating intentionally causing birth defects.

Dude, if that’s what you consider control, I’d hate to see you at full meltdown.

Just shut the fuck up already.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/148 "2005-12-04T04:35:05Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Dude, if that’s what you consider control, I’d hate to see you at full meltdown.

~shrugs~

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Just shut the fuck up already.

Thanks for your kind concern. Really appreciate it. But no.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/149 "2005-12-04T07:48:20Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Erasure, not Eurasia.

We have always been at war with Erasure.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/150 "2005-12-04T07:50:12Z")

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> [@Case Sensitive](#):
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> We have always been at war with Erasure.

Oy vey!

(but thanks for the laugh :D)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/151 "2005-12-04T14:16:48Z")

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If I may get the thread back on track: [Idiots whose counting skills are thrown out the window when they see a chance to make a cheap political shot](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347895) should have Emma Goldman and her horsewhip unleashed on their sorry hides.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-people-that-should-be-put-across-the-knees-and-spanked-with-the-broom-handle/333545/152 "2005-12-04T14:32:40Z")

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Oooh, nice one **LHoD**!

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