# Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 7, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733 "2016-06-07T14:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/41 "2016-06-07T20:01:31Z")
Just for laffs, let’s summarize the bullet points of another letter written on Brock’s behalf, this time by one of his friends: > **[Brock Turner’s Childhood Friend Blames His Felony Sexual-Assault Conviction...](https://www.thecut.com/2016/06/brock-turners-friend-pens-letter-of-support.html)** > > A friend of the Stanford swimmer who assaulted an unconscious woman calls the whole thing a huge misunderstanding.” - Brock Turner shouldn’t be referred to as a rapist but rather as a swim star - despite the fact that he committed rape. - Never mind the evidence or the jury verdict, this person is too kind and nice to ever do something like that - It’s okay because he was drunk and “not in control” - Just because he raped someone doesn’t mean he should have to suffer any kind of consequences for it - She was unconscious, therefore there’s no way she could know she didn’t give consent (WHAT?!) - A rape is just things “getting out of hand” - Rape is not always because of rapists (WHAT?!?) - Political Correctness is why we classify simple things such as men getting drunk and fucking women without their consent as rape ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/42 "2016-06-07T20:02:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by elbows View Post > And when will the press switch from “Stanford student and swimmer…”, to “The accused rapist…”? > Please. Convicted Sigh. “Stanford student and swimmer…”, begins an article before he was a convicted rapist. But should, in my opinion begin instead, “The accused rapist…” That he attends Stanford and is a swimmer, should not lead ahead of ‘Accused rapist’. In my opinion. Clear enough? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/43 "2016-06-07T20:04:02Z")
You know what makes me happy about this whole thing? The one little thing that is good? That if anybody in the future Googles this guy or the judge, this whole case will be all over the first page of results. They fucking deserve that at the least. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/44 "2016-06-07T20:14:56Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > #1, #2, and #3 - sure. > > But the system doesn’t work without defense attorneys, and even pieces of shit deserve good ones (which is an indictment of the public defender process in most areas - even the good ones are buried under overwork). That’s fair. It is the defense attorney’s job to put their best foot forwards - it is the judge’s job to decide their best isn’t good enough, and that this asshole will be spending the next decade in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/45 "2016-06-07T20:39:09Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Affluenza. > > Rich and privileged people thinking they are above consequences. > > Which, as the punishment here proves, is unfortunately very true in our society. What kills me is he gets what is essentially a walk…and he is appealing to conviction! “6 months…no way man, that will be on my record forever! APPEAL!” ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/46 "2016-06-07T20:48:49Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Just for laffs, let’s summarize the bullet points of another letter written on Brock’s behalf, this time by one of his friends: > > [Brock Turner’s Childhood Friend Blames His Felony Sexual-Assault Conviction on Political Correctness](http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/brock-turners-friend-pens-letter-of-support.html) > > - Brock Turner shouldn’t be referred to as a rapist but rather as a swim star - despite the fact that he committed rape. > - Never mind the evidence or the jury verdict, this person is too kind and nice to ever do something like that > - It’s okay because he was drunk and “not in control” > - Just because he raped someone doesn’t mean he should have to suffer any kind of consequences for it > - She was unconscious, therefore there’s no way she could know she didn’t give consent (WHAT?!) > - A rape is just things “getting out of hand” > - Rape is not always because of rapists (WHAT?!?) > - Political Correctness is why we classify simple things such as men getting drunk and fucking women without their consent as rape Jesus. I think I’m gonna puke. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/47 "2016-06-07T20:57:07Z")
His childhood friend [thinks that rape isn’t caused by rapists, sometimes it’s caused by Political Correctness](http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/brock-turners-friend-pens-letter-of-support.html): “But where do we draw the line and stop worrying about being politically correct every second of the day and see that rape on campuses isn’t always because people are rapists.” **ETA:** scooped by **Budget Player Cadet** ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/48 "2016-06-07T21:26:52Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m not a parent but if I was I’d be willing to slander, defame, and lie about somebody if it kept my kid out of prison. Even if I thought my kid was innocent I wouldn’t do this. Because I know it would make me and them come out looking terrible and seal in many people’s minds that the apple didn’t fall that far. I don’t think that crap letter was the thing which decided the sentence anyway. If it was that easy to influence a judge, no one would ever do hard time. All the father accomplished was destroying his image along with his son’s. That his son got off lightly only adds insult to the injury caused by that letter. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/49 "2016-06-07T22:28:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > As somebody pointed out in the other thread on this topic, Dan Turner is trying to keep his son out of prison. While his methods are contemptible and he’s apparently raised a terrible son, I can’t pit somebody for trying to protect their child. I am perfectly happy to pit someone for trying to protect a rapist from the consequences of their actions, regardless of any blood ties. The father is a scumbag and if it were up to me would get prison time for the offensiveness of his defense of his son. In protecting his child, he’s attacking someone else’s child. That’s just evil. ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/50 "2016-06-07T22:37:13Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > The father is a scumbag and if it were up to me would **get prison time for the offensiveness of his defense of his son**. Maybe Liberals can manage to win 75% of Senate and abolish The First Amendment. Then every state can have their own Speech Penal Code. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/51 "2016-06-07T23:11:45Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Maybe Liberals can manage to win 75% of Senate and abolish The First Amendment. Then every state can have their own Speech Penal Code. Okay, you took your partisan political shot; now go fuck a cactus, you piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/52 "2016-06-07T23:16:23Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Jesus. I think I’m gonna puke. The friend in question is a member of a band called Good English. The band has just had five New York-area gigs canceled by various venues, because of the letter she wrote. In response, she has just released an open letter on Facebook, in which she attempts to explain why she wrote her letter in support of Brock Turner, and attempts to clarify what she was _really_ trying to say. [https://www.facebook.com/goodenglishband/posts/1317477681600309](https://www.facebook.com/goodenglishband/posts/1317477681600309) TLDR version: the alcohol was to blame. As with so many such non-apologies, she should have remembered the useful maxim: “When you’re deep in the hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/53 "2016-06-07T23:17:17Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Maybe Liberals can manage to win 75% of Senate and abolish The First Amendment. Then every state can have their own Speech Penal Code. What a blessing we’ve got **CCitizen** around in threads about privileged white guys whining about the harshness of six-month sentences for rape convictions, to remind us that what’s **really** important is the fact that their whining isn’t illegal. ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/54 "2016-06-07T23:20:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Okay, you took your partisan political shot; now go fuck a cactus, you piece of shit. Tell it to your mother and her father – they are not worth my shit. ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/55 "2016-06-07T23:23:44Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > What a blessing we’ve got **CCitizen** around in threads about privileged white guys whining about the harshness of six-month sentences for rape convictions, to remind us that what’s **really** important is the fact that their whining isn’t illegal. Many people say many offensive things which are not illegal. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/56 "2016-06-07T23:41:09Z")
The really terrifying thing about that piece of shit Brock Turner, his piece of shit father, and the piece of shit judge? None of them are unique. They’re not even unusual. All of them are replicated thousands upon thousands of times, all over the world. The only reason this case is getting any attention is because the victim is incredibly articulate and eloquent. Apart from that, all of this - the rapist who feels that another person’s body is his property, the father outraged that raping a woman should have any effect at all on his son’s life, the judge who agrees, the woman whose trauma and suffering are totally discounted and dismissed - all of this happens every day. Every single day. It just goes unnoticed. And if this victim weren’t so eloquent, her case would have gone unnoticed too. On a better note, though: you know who doesn’t get enough mention in this case? The two guys who stopped the rape. They could have just kept going, figured that the unconscious girl half-naked in the bushes with a guy raping her must have somehow wanted it, not their problem. Instead they stopped it and held the rapist till the police arrived. Brock Turner and his father and the judge may be a lot more common than I’d like to believe, but they’re very far from universal. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/57 "2016-06-07T23:46:31Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > #1, #2, and #3 - sure. > > But the system doesn’t work without defense attorneys, and even pieces of shit deserve good ones (which is an indictment of the public defender process in most areas - even the good ones are buried under overwork). Sure. Like flies to shit. The perpetrator has a right to defense, but that should not mean his victim has to suffer bullying in court. Did you read the victim’s letter? Do you understand what that sleazy lawyer put her through? Hell, even the rapist, who seems otherwise devoid of empathy, felt the need to distance himself from his lawyer’s underhanded tactics. No, this was not a “good” lawyer. > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Just for laffs, let’s summarize the bullet points of another letter written on Brock’s behalf, this time by one of his friends: > > [Brock Turner’s Childhood Friend Blames His Felony Sexual-Assault Conviction on Political Correctness](http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/brock-turners-friend-pens-letter-of-support.html) Absolutely disgusting. If the judge let this sort of bullshit in any way sway his decision, as seems to be the case, he should be given the boot. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Ddamn; that lady can write. Indeed. I was both moved and impressed. Did that wretched judge just ignore this? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/58 "2016-06-07T23:47:41Z")
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**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/59 "2016-06-07T23:49:09Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > If the judge let this sort of bullshit in any way sway his decision, as seems to be the case, he should be given the boot. Petition [here](https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky). ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/60 "2016-06-07T23:53:03Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Tell it to your mother and her father – they are not worth my shit. Go away. Come back when not horrible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=4)