# Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 7, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733 "2016-06-07T14:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/641 "2016-09-10T23:58:54Z")
Just to revisit some things from earlier in the thread - here is an article on DOJ’s investigation into the Baltimore Police Department. Officers would ask women “why are you messing that guy’s life up” Only 15% of rape kits got tested between 2010 and 2014. 15 percent! BPD classified 30% of rape accusations as “unfounded” - 5 times the national average. is it any wonder that sometimes, victims don’t want to go to the police? > **[How Baltimore police "seriously and systemically" failed sexual-assault...](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/baltimore-doj-report-sexual-assault/)** > > Victim blaming, untested rape kits, and more from the Justice Department's damning investigation. [http://www.endthebacklog.org/news/us-doj-finds-baltimore-police-failed-sexual-assault-survivors](http://www.endthebacklog.org/news/us-doj-finds-baltimore-police-failed-sexual-assault-survivors) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/642 "2016-09-11T00:17:32Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > The thing I’ve learned from having been a sexual abuse survivor is that I’m not a victim - I’m a survivor. But in order to be a survivor I need to take responsibility - not for my own abuse - but for my own reactions to my abuse. I suffer from anxiety and depression. Probably PSTD. But my mental health is my responsibility. Had I not been raped, I might still suffer from depression and anxiety - its likely given my family history. So I don’t sit around saying “poor me, I’m depressed and anxious due to having been abused.” To me, it doesn’t sound like Slacker’s friend took responsibility - or perhaps he did, but Slacker is looking for someone to blame. Frankly \*\*Dangerosa \*\*you strike me as a hell of a lot stronger than I am… but yeah. Always my mantra, ‘‘It’s not my fault, but it is my responsibility.’’ I think that’s what survivors understand that most people don’t – sometimes colossally unfair shit happens in your life and you either buckle under or you carry on. That is a reality rape and sexual assault victims have been living with for centuries. Things can wreck you, for a time, but where you go from there is up to you. I’m far from fucking perfect, and I had some major disruptions in my education and career throughout the years from PTSD and depression. But I make the choice to keep fighting even in the face of insane levels of injustice. I can’t always do right. Sometimes I get stuck, overwhelmed, overemotional, and it fucks with my life. Honestly, this thread is fucking with my head big time-today, and I know it’s just trauma bullshit because I keep bouncing back and forth from this thread to thoughts about my mother, or even other relatives I haven’t thought of in years. But I made a commitment to myself no matter how fucked things seemed, I would keep caring about other people, I would keep working on it, I would keep striving to make healthier choices than my parents did. That has been my personal way out. Even when my integrity was in question I made the choice to still live a life of integrity. And the cumulative effect of that commitment has come out in my favor. I have a healthy marriage with a man I’ve been with for 14 years, I have a job I love and am passionate about, and I have seriously mind-bustingly amazing friends. I also have a life relatively free of drama. I built that. Nobody gave me that, nobody taught me how to do that, I made it myself. It kills me that not everybody finds their way out. It kills me the way **Slacker** ’s friend ended and I don’t even know the guy. But there were a series of choices there that led to that end. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/643 "2016-09-11T00:56:28Z")
I had a stable homelife growing up and didn’t face my abuse until my 20s. When I did, I was more or less believed - and HR forced me into counseling - which as my therapist pointed out - was more about their liability and guilt than my health, but I got to address my issues. Including one therapist (I’ve had many) who explained that survivor or victim was my choice. I couldn’t choose whether to be one or the other - that had been made for me - but I got to choose which one. And I’m a person of relative privilege. I grew up middle class - and at any time could have moved back in with my parents. I had a college degree, was intelligent, and had marketable skills. And as for stronger - I spent part of last December in the rubber room at the hospital :). ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/644 "2016-09-11T03:06:32Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > And as for stronger - I spent part of last December in the rubber room at the hospital :). I’m sorry to hear that. And I’ve been there. Not since I was 19, but it stuck with me, and frankly there were times I should have returned to the hospital but didn’t. I made a promise to myself I would never go back, but maybe that was a stupid promise. I hope you’re feeling better now. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/645 "2016-09-11T08:05:30Z")
Fuck, I hate nepotism. I wish the fuckhead father could be raped so that his perspective may be changed. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/646 "2016-09-11T12:11:02Z")
Nepotism? ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/647 "2016-09-11T12:14:18Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > The thing people are still failing to understand is that it isn’t the accusation that makes them guilty, or even the “actual” actions as they are unknowable, it’s having a convincing amount of evidence that makes someone guilty. > > We’ve had people in this thread apparently sincerely advocating for people losing their jobs and families based solely on someone’s accusation. That’s not their “reputation”, it’s their life, and it’s unacceptable to harm it based on an unsupported accusation. You keep using that word, reputation. And I don’t think you know what it means. In reality, your reputation is the sum total of what things are saying about you, both good and bad You seem to be arguing that there should be some kind of filter, that everybodys reputation should only consist of the good things said about them, and that no-one should ever pass on a warning about bad behavior. There is a man I went to school with. As a teen, he would smack around the girls, as an adult, he had a relationship with a woman, and she ended up in hospital with serious battery injuries. Afterwards, he had a few short term relationship with women who reported that he was violent. Today, he lives in the same area where we grew up, with little opportunity to get out due to alcohl abuse. He has had no relationship with women for decades, because everyone in the small town knows his reputation. Thats how reputation works. The women has passed the warning on And they believe their friends and relatives, whom they have known for many years, as credible sources. > [@Steophan](#): > > No-one is saying you shouldn’t talk about your experiences. We are saying that it’s wrong to spread unsubstantiated rumours, and that it’s wrong to act on those rumours. You keep acting as though whether the accused “actually” did what he’s accused of is relevant. It isn’t, all that matters is what he can be shown to have done, to whatever is the appropriate degree of certainty in different situations. I’d say whether the accused actually did what he is accused of is pretty relevant Especially to the victim. You don’t really seem to understand how human communication works, or why. > [@Steophan](#): > > If you are making those decisions based solely on believing one person’s word above another’s _without any other evidence_ you are the one shirking your responsibility, in most cases. I can see the argument for needing very little evidence to reject a babysitter, simply because young children are effectively helpless, but pretty much every other case should require more than unsubstantiated rumour. Really? So you’d let your preteen son work with the priest who was moved to your parish after a long string of allegations of child abuse? You wouldn’t say anything about a student of your working with another student who has been accused of rape? Soldiers under your command? Employees? You believe your refusal to incorporate information you cannot substantiate trumps your responsibility to people in your care? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/648 "2016-09-11T13:44:48Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > **Slackerinc** ’s argument about proof beyond a reasonable doubt is quite wrong, as is his critique of **Ascenray**. > > The requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt only applies in criminal matters, and only when the state is seeking to have someone convicted of a criminal offence. The state must prove it’s case beyond a reasonable doubt. > > But, that is the only area where proof beyond a reasonable doubt applies. It doesn’t apply when it is a citizen making an allegation against another citizen, and it doesn’t apply in other types of court proceedings, like a civil action. > > So suppose a woman, call her Jane, goes to the police and alleges that Joe assaulted we sexually. Suppose the police investigate, > and the prosecutor You should realize that Steophan has a drastically different understanding of what does and does not constitute “reasonable doubt” than most people. He has repeatedly stated that Michael Dunn, the man who murdered Jordan Davis for playing loud music in his car was wrongly convicted and that he killed a “thug.” [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting\_of\_Jordan\_Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jordan_Davis) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/649 "2016-09-11T14:26:18Z")
Oh so he is a racist and a misogynist both at the same time. White men can do no wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/650 "2016-09-11T14:39:29Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Nepotism? Uh, family member unquestionly supporting family member. Did I spell that wrongly? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/651 "2016-09-11T14:42:21Z")
I thought nepotism was benefiting from privileges solely for being a member of that family. Nepotism would be if the kid got a light sentence specifically because his family had sway, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/652 "2016-09-11T14:42:36Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Uh, family member unquestionly supporting family member. Did I spell that wrongly? Yeah, that’s not what nepotism means. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/653 "2016-09-11T14:52:29Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Yeah, that’s not what nepotism means. > **[Dictionary.com | Meanings & Definitions of English Words](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nepotism)** > > The world's leading online dictionary: English definitions, synonyms, word origins, example sentences, word games, and more. A trusted authority for 25+ years! OK. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/654 "2016-09-11T14:55:00Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I thought nepotism was benefiting from privileges solely for being a member of that family. > > Nepotism would be if the kid got a light sentence specifically because his family had sway, or something. Or you could loosely interpret it as a family member supporting a family member only because they are a family member (see Scott Peterson’s mom). If not nepotism, fuck whatever the word is for that. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/655 "2016-09-11T14:58:19Z")
I hate nepotistic-like behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/656 "2016-09-11T15:05:35Z")
Well, yeah, I think it goes without saying Dad is a dickhead. I can understand parents unconditionally loving their children, but making excuses for abhorrent behavior is not acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/657 "2016-09-11T17:01:34Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Or you could loosely interpret it as a family member supporting a family member only because they are a family member (see Scott Peterson’s mom). If not nepotism, fuck whatever the word is for that. That’s just supporting your family. I don’t think that his dad is a dick for supporting his son. He’s a dick for how he has gone about it. I would be dine with him backing his son all the way if he had not said those offensive and stupid things. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/658 "2017-07-02T17:47:36Z")
Updating this thread the judge has finally spoken out. Persky’s words are contained in a 198-word statement he filed in response to the notice of intention to recall him, which his critics turned in to the registrar Monday. The recall campaign had submitted a scathing 198-word statement branding the judge as an apologist for rapists and batterers. > [@](#): > > As a prosecutor, I fought vigorously for victims. As a judge, my role is to consider both sides. California law requires every judge to consider rehabilitation and probation for first-time offenders. It’s not always popular, but it’s the law, and I took an oath to follow it without regard to public opinion or my opinions as a former prosecutor. > **[Judge Persky speaks out in anti-recall statement filed with registrar](https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/30/judge-persky-files-response-to-recall-statement/)** > > Critics hope to qualify recall for June 2018 ballot. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/659 "2017-07-12T14:14:18Z")
> [@](#): > > California law requires every judge to consider rehabilitation and probation for first-time offenders. I have to “consider” any incoming messages concerning my personal finances, but that doesn’t mean that I should respond to Nigerian e-mail scams or that I should not be criticized if for some reason I fall for one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/660 "2017-07-12T14:22:01Z")
Not a great excuse. We’re talking about rape here, not some misdemeanor. I’ve seen people’s lives ruined over a baggie of weed; you mean to tell me the correct time for leniency is when a rich white dudebro rapes someone? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=34)