# Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 7, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733 "2016-06-07T14:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/741 "2018-05-19T03:23:03Z")
But only because this one event and all the publicity surrounding it has ruined his chances of having a meaningful life. So really it’s societies fault. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/742 "2018-05-19T03:35:00Z")
[“I blame society! Society made me what I am!”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/743 "2018-05-19T03:39:27Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Did he do the crime? Yes? > > Then he does the time. The issue is: What is the appropriate amount of time? If the judge is correct that he followed the sentencing guidelines, then the legislature needs to revisit that particular law toot sweet. I’d dearly love to know how the judge’s decision followed those guidelines, though. > [@](#): > > Mark my words, this loser will re-offend. Hasn’t he already committed another offense? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/744 "2018-05-19T03:52:33Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The issue is: What is the appropriate amount of time? If the judge is correct that he followed the sentencing guidelines, then the legislature needs to revisit that particular law toot sweet. I’d dearly love to know how the judge’s decision followed those guidelines, though. I think the voters have decided to make the change themselves. The judge lost his case to have the recall vote stopped, so clearly his fellow judges think he done screwed up too. But sadly, California approved a ballot measure(?) that greatly reduced prison sentences. You only get 1 year for a lot of felonies now and only 1-3 years for rape, it would appear. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/745 "2018-05-19T19:24:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And so I will say it here: I think the guy himself was a rapist at one point. I can’t believe that someone could otherwise be this clueless. Jesus, what is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/746 "2018-05-19T21:33:36Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And so I will say it here: I think the guy himself was a rapist at one point. I can’t believe that someone could otherwise be this clueless. I don’t think human nature works like that. It’s just as likely he identifies with this kid (Nice White Boy, Good Family), and since he knows he himself is basically ethical, he projects his own standards onto the kid. He can’t conceive that he could have ever done such a thing, so he conclude that the only way this kid, who he sees as like himself, could possibly have done such a thing is in some sort of drunken fog, some sort of mental collapse: an external thing that happened to the rapist, a tragic accident. When it’s a person he doesn’t identify with that does the same thing, he attributes it to malicious intent, to a character flaw. I’ve seen this many times on less serious issues. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/747 "2018-05-20T02:42:16Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Jesus, what is wrong with you? +1 ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/748 "2018-05-20T02:45:08Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Jesus, what is wrong with you? It’s **BigT**. What else do you expect? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/749 "2018-06-06T13:45:14Z")
Good News, everyone! > **[Judge in Stanford Rape Case Is Removed by California Voters](https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-in-stanford-rape-case-is-recalled-by-california-voters)** > > Aaron Persky is out, with 59 percent of voters favoring his recall. Judge recalled with 59% of voters in favor of his removal. Assistant District Attorney Cindy Hendrickson won 71% of the vote to replace him. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/750 "2018-06-06T14:13:36Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I don’t think human nature works like that. It’s just as likely he identifies with this kid (Nice White Boy, Good Family), and since he knows he himself is basically ethical, he projects his own standards onto the kid. He can’t conceive that he could have ever done such a thing, so he conclude that the only way this kid, who he sees as like himself, could possibly have done such a thing is in some sort of drunken fog, some sort of mental collapse: an external thing that happened to the rapist, a tragic accident. When it’s a person he doesn’t identify with that does the same thing, he attributes it to malicious intent, to a character flaw. > > I’ve seen this many times on less serious issues. I think you’re assessment is correct, but it wouldn’t surprise me if, as BigT suggested, the now-ex-Judge has been availing himself regularly of Stanford White Boy privilege. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/751 "2018-06-06T15:36:25Z")
I came in to post [the good news](https://apnews.com/9be1d70223704bf89fae8646db74dd19/Judge-who-sentenced-swimmer-recalled-amid-MeToo-movement) and see that **Chimera** already did so. > [@](#): > > “The broader message of this victory is that violence against women is now a voting issue,” said Michele Dauber, an outspoken women’s rights campus activist who launched the recall effort. She said the local vote will resonate nationally and underscores the staying power of the #MeToo movement. > > “This is a historical moment in time. Women are standing up for their rights and there is a national reckoning.” > > Persky, who declined to comment Tuesday, said repeatedly that he couldn’t discuss the case that spurred the recall because Turner has appealed his conviction. But in a lengthy interview with The Associated Press last month, he said he didn’t regret the decision and was taken aback by the reaction. > > “I expected some negative reaction,” Persky said. “But not this.” > > Persky said he was adopting the probation department’s recommendation to spare Turner prison for several reasons, including Turner’s age, clean criminal record and the fact that both Turner and the victim were intoxicated. > > “The problem with this recall is it will pressure judges to follow the rule of public opinion as opposed to the rule of law.” No, this recall will pressure the law to conform to the wishes of the public. This is why you were removed from office, dude: you don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/752 "2018-06-06T16:05:59Z")
Beautifully put, Snowboarder. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/753 "2018-06-06T16:21:50Z")
Anyone know what happened to Brock’s appeal? The last news I found was the rejection with orders to rewrite it, but nothing after that. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/754 "2018-06-06T17:03:37Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I came in to post [the good news](https://apnews.com/9be1d70223704bf89fae8646db74dd19/Judge-who-sentenced-swimmer-recalled-amid-MeToo-movement) and see that **Chimera** already did so.No, this recall will pressure the law to conform to the wishes of the public. This is why you were removed from office, dude: you don’t get it. Yeah, Persky’s comment smacks of a “People exist to serve the law” not “The law exists to serve the people” attitude. And of course, the law in no way, shape or form required him to follow the recommendations of the probation dept. He could have just as easily have sentenced him to the 6 years the prosecutors were requesting, and we wouldn’t be here today. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/755 "2018-06-06T17:28:37Z")
Persky’s primary argument against the recall seemed to be that his ruling was legal. The deafening counter argument is that his recall is also legal. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/756 "2018-06-06T17:48:40Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Anyone know what happened to Brock’s appeal? The last news I found was the rejection with orders to rewrite it, but nothing after that. Oral arguments in the appeal begin on June 28th. His dumbass attorney is claiming that while the prosecutor said that all he had to do to rape the woman was unzip his pants, “there’s no evidence that he intended to do so”. :smack::smack::smack: YOU MEAN OTHER THAN THAT HE **DID** DO SO??? Oh, and he’s objecting to the use of the term ‘dumpster’ in the original trial. :rolleyes: \*"Multhaup also claimed prosecutors “malevolently” used the phrase “behind-the-dumpster” to describe the location of the incident because it implied Turner wanted to shield the incident from view and because “it implied moral depravity, callousness, and culpability on the appellant’s part…” The state again disputed Multhaup’s claim, arguing Turner himself said the encounter occurred behind a dumpster."\* ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/757 "2018-06-06T17:57:22Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Persky’s primary argument against the recall seemed to be that his ruling was legal. The deafening counter argument is that his recall is also legal. **Bricker** has this same confusion about “legal” and “right”. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/758 "2018-06-06T19:01:49Z")
The guy looks like Vezzik from _Princess Bride_. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/759 "2018-06-06T19:31:36Z")
Dammit, I knew I’d get that wrong. Vizzini, not Vezzik. There is no Vezzik. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/760 "2018-06-06T19:44:13Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Dammit, I knew I’d get that wrong. Vizzini, not Vezzik. There is no Vezzik. There’s a Fezzik, so I thought you meant Persky looks like Wallace Shawn & Andre the Giant’s love child. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=39)