# Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 7, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733 "2016-06-07T14:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/61 "2016-06-08T00:25:30Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > On a better note, though: you know who doesn’t get enough mention in this case? The two guys who stopped the rape. They could have just kept going, figured that the unconscious girl half-naked in the bushes with a guy raping her must have somehow wanted it, not their problem. Instead they stopped it and held the rapist till the police arrived. Right on. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/62 "2016-06-08T00:33:52Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Maybe Liberals can manage to win 75% of Senate and abolish The First Amendment. Then every state can have their own Speech Penal Code. Maybe conservatives can manage to learn to read. I didn’t say anything about getting rid of the first amendment or modifying state penal codes. I said what I would do if it were up to me, not whati would modify the legal system to do. There’s a big difference between the two, and I doubt I’ll going to be appointed dictator any time soon ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/63 "2016-06-08T00:40:10Z")
Of course what Brock Turner’s father said was very offensive. But many people say many offensive things. I guess I was wrong to come into the hornet’s nest to talk about these issues. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/64 "2016-06-08T01:02:54Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Of course what Brock Turner’s father said was very offensive. But many people say many offensive things. I guess I was wrong to come into the hornet’s nest to talk about these issues. You’re clearly NOT here to talk about the issues, you’re here to try and score cheap partisan political points, you lying piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/65 "2016-06-08T01:09:19Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Of course what Brock Turner’s father said was very offensive. But many people say many offensive things. I guess I was wrong to come into the hornet’s nest to talk about these issues. Go back to complaining about mommy and daddy paying for your school and how useless you are at life. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/66 "2016-06-08T01:11:49Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > The really terrifying thing about that piece of shit Brock Turner, his piece of shit father, and the piece of shit judge? None of them are unique. They’re not even unusual. All of them are replicated thousands upon thousands of times, all over the world. > > The only reason this case is getting any attention is because the victim is incredibly articulate and eloquent. Apart from that, all of this - the rapist who feels that another person’s body is his property, the father outraged that raping a woman should have any effect at all on his son’s life, the judge who agrees, the woman whose trauma and suffering are totally discounted and dismissed - all of this happens every day. Every single day. It just goes unnoticed. And if this victim weren’t so eloquent, her case would have gone unnoticed too. A poignant observation. And horrible to think that the system betrays and doubly victimizes those who do not have such a strong voice. Hell’s bells! Even the articulate and powerful plea by this remarcable woman was ignored. > [@Voyager](#): > > [There is an effort started to recall the judge.](http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_29984717/) > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Petition [here](https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky). Thank you. This is comforting to know. I’d love to sign this petition, but I don’t suppose it’s open to non-citizens/non-residents of the US? (I’ve never used [Change.org](http://Change.org), so I don’t know how it works, but will be happy to sign if I can.) ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/67 "2016-06-08T01:20:04Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > You’re clearly NOT here to talk about the issues, you’re here to try and score cheap partisan political points, you lying piece of shit. You do not know anything about me. Your mother and her father are canine feces. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/68 "2016-06-08T01:26:32Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > You do not know anything about me. Your mother and her father are canine feces. About time you posted in the pit you stupid asshole troll. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/69 "2016-06-08T01:27:33Z")
Women who play the drums, I know of an indie band slot opening up real soon now… ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/70 "2016-06-08T01:33:01Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > About time you posted in the pit you stupid asshole troll. I only answer in kind when attacked first. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/71 "2016-06-08T02:29:47Z")
Some [more information](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/stanford-sexual-assault-judge-recall) on why Persky sentenced as he did. [QUOTE=The Guardian] “There is less moral culpability attached to the defendant who is … intoxicated,” the judge said. [/QUOTE] Good to know if I ever want to commit a crime. [QUOTE=The Guardian] Persky also noted that news coverage of the case had significantly impacted Turner, saying: “The media attention that has been given to this case has in a way sort of poisoned the lives of the people that have been affected. … The question I’ve asked myself is … ‘Is state prison for this defendant an antidote to that poison?’” [/QUOTE] Why is it the legal system’s responsibility to provide an antidote? The defendant came by his poisonous media attention honestly. [QUOTE=The Guardian] “I take him at his word that subjectively that’s his version of his events. … I’m not convinced that his lack of complete acquiescence to the verdict should count against him,” he said. [/QUOTE] If someone is convicted of three felonies by a jury of his peers, I would think in order to be certain that the felon won’t re-offend, he ought to understand what he did wrong. The judge is acknowledging that the defendant doesn’t, but claims that shouldn’t be a concern. Why not? Second, how the hell is the defendent’s subjective view relevant? Maybe Defendant Number 2 sincerely believed Granny had it coming to her when he pushed her down the stairs. Should we be lenient on him also? [QUOTE=The Guardian] Persky also appeared to rely heavily on letters that Turner’s friends and family sent and read an excerpt from a former classmate who told the judge she couldn’t believe the assault allegations. “To me that just rings true,” the judge said. “It sort of corroborates the evidence of his character up until the night of this incident, which has been positive.” [/QUOTE] So despite the evidence of that evening, which proved to a jury’s satisfaction that the defendant committed three violent felonies, the judge believed he’s really a nice guy after all. After all, his friend said so. This is disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![stolatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@stolatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolatt)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/72 "2016-06-08T02:39:19Z")
But he’s a really good swimmer! It’s so weird and irrelevant. I find it interesting that the defense attorney stressed the fact that he remembered the events, but she didn’t. So…a person can be sober enough to remember events, but in the same moment, be too drunk to know right from wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/73 "2016-06-08T02:55:17Z")
> [@stolatt](#): > > But he’s a really good swimmer! Okay, let him face Trial By Shark. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/74 "2016-06-08T02:57:13Z")
The rapist looks like Wee Dingwall. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/75 "2016-06-08T03:06:36Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Petition [here](https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky). Thank you, signed. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/76 "2016-06-08T03:33:28Z")
I’m going to frame this very carefully, as I am absolutely of no different opinion about the two shitbags and one privilege-coddler in this narrative. But… I think the rage has been slightly off-target in one respect. It’s an absolutely terrible choice of phrase, but I don’t read the father’s letter as “20 minutes of action” meaning “twenty minutes of gettin’ it on, yo!” It seems clear to me that he meant “20 minutes of my son’s actions in 20 years of life.” Changes nothing. I agree with nearly every post above, and maybe a grammar cop isn’t needed in this mob. But misinterpreting subtle points in events and working up extra, misguided rage about them bothers me. There’s more than enough here for justified rage. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/77 "2016-06-08T04:52:10Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > On a better note, though: you know who doesn’t get enough mention in this case? The two guys who stopped the rape. They could have just kept going, figured that the unconscious girl half-naked in the bushes with a guy raping her must have somehow wanted it, not their problem. Instead they stopped it and held the rapist till the police arrived. . Yep. [They deserve a lot more recognition](https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/meet-the-two-swedish-men-who-caught-brock-turner?utm_term=.ktZwBq9pka#.ko9jBb4NKp). Apparently they are two Swedish PhD students. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/78 "2016-06-08T04:57:22Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > I only answer in kind when attacked first. Untrue. You came into this thread completely unbidden and started attacking someone. You then attacked all liberals on a liberal messageboard. I give you a pass for not knowing that the guy was using hyperbole and does not actually want the guy arrested. But you didn’t just say you disagreed. You took it further and attacked people. And this is the Pit. If you attack people, you are going to get attacked back. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/79 "2016-06-08T05:20:25Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Tell it to your mother and her father – they are not worth my shit. You _really_ need to work on your Pit material. 😛 you sound like a bot. You _are_ a bot. Fuckin cyborgs. Lame. > [@CCitizen](#): > > I only answer in kind when attacked first. You’re like a Trump Borg. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/80 "2016-06-08T05:23:07Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > The friend in question is a member of a band called Good English. The band has just had five New York-area gigs canceled by various venues, because of the letter she wrote. > > In response, she has just released an open letter on Facebook, in which she attempts to explain why she wrote her letter in support of Brock Turner, and attempts to clarify what she was _really_ trying to say. > > [https://www.facebook.com/goodenglishband/posts/1317477681600309](https://www.facebook.com/goodenglishband/posts/1317477681600309) > > TLDR version: the alcohol was to blame. > > As with so many such non-apologies, she should have remembered the useful maxim: “When you’re deep in the hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.” Just a heads-up to folks that that Facebook page is gone (or at least temporarily unviewable). Seems likely to me that the rest of the band went “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING AND WHY ARE YOU SAYING IT ON THE BAND PAGE???” and took it all down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=5)