# Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 7, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733 "2016-06-07T14:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/81 "2016-06-08T05:25:59Z")
> **[Good English drummer speaks out regarding letter supporting Stanford sex...](https://themusicnetwork.com/good-english-drummer-issues-statement-regarding-letter-supporting-stanford-sex-offender-brock-turner/)** > > PRESS RELEASE:Source: New York publicist Behind The Curtains Media Leslie Rasmussen, drummer of the band Good English, released a statement today Here’s the letter. It’s still stupid bullshit. It’s not quite as horrible as her initial letter, but it’s still pretty fucking bad. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/82 "2016-06-08T05:29:11Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m going to frame this very carefully, as I am absolutely of no different opinion about the two shitbags and one privilege-coddler in this narrative. But… I think the rage has been slightly off-target in one respect. > > It’s an absolutely terrible choice of phrase, but I don’t read the father’s letter as “20 minutes of action” meaning “twenty minutes of gettin’ it on, yo!” It seems clear to me that he meant “20 minutes of my son’s actions in 20 years of life.” > > Changes nothing. I agree with nearly every post above, and maybe a grammar cop isn’t needed in this mob. But misinterpreting subtle points in events and working up extra, misguided rage about them bothers me. There’s more than enough here for justified rage. So you think that, in a written letter he was going to submit to the judge who was going to decide whether or not his son went to prison for half as long as he’d been on the planet already, Dan Turner somehow accidentally “misspoke” such that he forgot to include the possessive pronoun “my son’s” and he somehow “misspoke” and wrote “action”, singular, when he really meant “actions”, plural? And he didn’t notice the error and correct it before he submitted this plea for his son’s freedom? You’re saying that you think that his father, who hired a top defense attorney because he cared so much for his son’s freedom, somehow submitted a letter to the judge that was not heavily discussed and reviewed before it’s submittal? And you think he did this inadvertently, even tho the entire defense rested on the claim that this was consensual (“just getting’ some action”) and not a rape? Have I accurately described what you think? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/83 "2016-06-08T05:30:57Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Okay, let him face Trial By Shark. Sometimes, trial by ordeal and trial by combat seem like they should be on the books again. This is one of those times. Let the kid fight Brock Lesnar to the death, and may the gods decide. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/84 "2016-06-08T05:34:09Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > As with so many such non-apologies, she should have remembered the useful maxim: “When you’re deep in the hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.” Not the best idiom to use in a rape case 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/85 "2016-06-08T12:33:23Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > It’s an absolutely terrible choice of phrase, but I don’t read the father’s letter as “20 minutes of action” meaning “twenty minutes of gettin’ it on, yo!” It seems clear to me that he meant “20 minutes of my son’s actions in 20 years of life.”. I don’t give rape supporters the benefit of the doubt in their wording, especially when that wording fits with the ideals that rape supporters hold. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/86 "2016-06-08T12:54:20Z")
More importantly, it only takes a second to pull a trigger and take a life. The duration of time taken to commit a crime is NOT a mitigating factor. 20 mins or 20 hrs, it’s still a rape of an unconscious woman. Just like pulling a trigger and taking a life, you don’t get a pass me because it was only ‘a few seconds of’ crime. I’m still struggling to see how a defendant who doesn’t admit to the specifics of the crime, or express remorse, AND insists on putting the victim/state through a trial deserves any leniency whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/87 "2016-06-08T13:03:24Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > As long as we’re going there… > > I made a joke in that other thread, and someone suggested I should be ashamed of myself. Since I saw a Mod note that I should basically _“Shut the Fuck Up”_ in that thread, I’ll defend myself here, in The Pit. > > First of all, the joke was not about rape, and _certainly not_ at the expense of the victim. That would be fucked up and in poor taste. > > If you don’t get the joke, sorry, sucks to be you. I’m not going to explain it. But I’d be willing to bet if Louis C. K. made the joke during a monologue on SNL, people would he howling with laughter. > > Second, if you think some topics are “off the table” for joking about, again, sucks to be you. You need to step back and stop taking life and yourself so fucking seriously. > > Rape is horrible. To make light of victims of rape would be horrible. But there sure are an awful lot of jokes being told about Cosby right now. See the difference? > > I thought my “joke” was fucking hilarious! That makes one of you. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/88 "2016-06-08T13:15:57Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > It’s an absolutely terrible choice of phrase, but I don’t read the father’s letter as “20 minutes of action” meaning “twenty minutes of gettin’ it on, yo!” It seems clear to me that he meant “20 minutes of my son’s actions in 20 years of life.” But what other “20 minutes of action” could he possibly be referring to that would ruin Fuckstain Jr’s life, especially since it was said as part of “now he has to register as a sex offender and that’ll follow him around all his life”? (And boo fucking hoo to that. Don’t want to be a registered sex offender? Don’t commit sex crimes.) Calling “the rape of an unconscious woman” “20 minutes of action” even in the sense of “activity that took 20 minutes” was an attempt to minimize the significance of his crime, and to minimize the harm done to the victim. And that’s why so many people have their undies in a bunch over that choice of words. ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/89 "2016-06-08T13:25:09Z")
I am not normally a violent person, but I would like to take baseball bat upside the heads of the rapist and his father. Repeatedly. Disbar the judge and have him sit in with mental health professionals who counsel rape victims. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/90 "2016-06-08T13:40:44Z")
The sentencing really makes me wonder what shitty things the judge has done in his lifetime. That would make better sense of his bizarre sentencing. If he’s been in similar situations with women, he would identify closer with the rapist. Or maybe he just has a misogynistic world view. Since he won’t consider himself a monster, he doesn’t see how terrible rape boy is. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/91 "2016-06-08T13:48:24Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > What kills me is he gets what is essentially a walk…and he is appealing to conviction! “6 months…no way man, that will be on my record forever! APPEAL!” Along with the six month jail (not prison) time, he got three years probation and, more importantly, sex-offender registry for life, which is no small thing. He’s most likely appealing the verdict in hopes of getting out of being on the sex offender registry. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/92 "2016-06-08T13:59:13Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > The sentencing really makes me wonder what shitty things the judge has done in his lifetime. That would make better sense of his bizarre sentencing. If he’s been in similar situations with women, he would identify closer with the rapist. Or maybe he just has a misogynistic world view. Since he won’t consider himself a monster, he doesn’t see how terrible rape boy is. I had the exact same thought. How else could he show such apparent empathy for someone who has committed such a blatantly horrible crime? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/93 "2016-06-08T14:01:08Z")
> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#): > > He’s most likely appealing the verdict in hopes of getting out of being on the sex offender registry. Maybe he should be given an option then. Register as a sex offender for the rest of his life or get RAPIST tattooed in block letters on his forehead. His choice. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/94 "2016-06-08T14:02:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So you think that, in a written letter he was going to submit to the judge who was going to decide whether or not his son went to prison for half as long as he’d been on the planet already, Dan Turner somehow accidentally “misspoke” such that he forgot to include the possessive pronoun “my son’s” and he somehow “misspoke” and wrote “action”, singular, when he really meant “actions”, plural? No, I think far too many adults can’t write their way out of a grocery list. I concede (and conceded) it makes absolutely no difference - but raging over a clumsy phrase on top of rage over far more important things adds nothing to the dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/95 "2016-06-08T14:10:53Z")
I disagree, this man’s letter and especially his choice of words to defend his son, have added considerably to the conversation. He may not be able to write well, you may be right. But there is no way it wasn’t vetted by the high priced lawyers, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/96 "2016-06-08T14:49:39Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > You do not know anything about me. Your posts tell us everything we need to know about you. None of it is good. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/97 "2016-06-08T15:00:51Z")
Sadly, not only can I see President Trump nominating this judge to the Supreme Court, I can see a Republican Senate giving him high-fives and chest-bumps. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/98 "2016-06-08T15:08:46Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > It should not have. > That is on the judge. > > As for the dad, I don’t think he truly acknowledges his son’s crime. > > “He is truly sorry for what _occurred_”? > How about “He is truly sorry for what he _did_”? > How about “He is truly sorry for what he _did to that woman_”? > > \*That \*would be a _start_. Or he could just be honest about it: “He is truly sorry _that he got caught_.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/99 "2016-06-08T15:12:13Z")
The kid clearly knew he was in the wrong. The two swedes had to chase him down and tackle him. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/100 "2016-06-08T15:14:54Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The kid clearly knew he was in the wrong. The two swedes had to chase him down and tackle him. So what you’re saying is, he got stepped on by two Swede dudes ? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733.md?page=6)