# Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action"

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**Created:** [June 7, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733 "2016-06-07T14:12:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/463 "2016-09-08T02:48:11Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> You realize nobody cares when people get raped and molested, right? Nobody cares who did it. Nobody cares if it’s true. Nobody cares.

I’m sorry you have had experiences that make this your view, but I just don’t believe this is true. (Which is not, you understand, the same as saying “\*everyone \*cares”.)

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Forgive me if the notion that a mere accusation can permanently destroy someone is farfetched to me, given how many actually convicted rapists I have seen return to complete normalcy with everyone looking the other way.

It destroyed my best friend. His name was Mudd, he immediately dropped out of school, and went back to the decaying Rust Belt inner city he had previously escaped. There, he fell back into the crowd of bad \*friends \*he had previously escaped. One day, after they committed a burglary, they got hopped up on meth and got paranoid that “college boy” was going to rat them out to the cops. So they shot and killed him in cold blood, dumped his corpse under a port-a-potty, and went around snickering to everyone about how \*hilarious \*it was that his last utterance had been “ouch”.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I’m curious how you feel about moral wrongs that aren’t explicitly against the law. If your wife cheats on you, are you allowed to tell people? If a man has a history of jealous, controlling, possessive relationship behavior, is it all right to warn people away from him? If someone is a compulsive liar, can you publicly call them out on their bullshit? Or should people never have any consequence for their actions unless it’s punishable in a court of law?

This is an interesting question. I’ll have to give it some thought. I will say that I think people should refrain from making serious allegations without proof, and people should refrain from \*believing \*serious allegations without proof; but I’m probably trying to empty the ocean with a thimble on that front.

> [@Acsenray](#):
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> They are not being subject to criminal punishment by the state. You are not putting them in prison. You are not killing them. That’s the difference.
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> Criminal law standards are for criminal courts. We have to live 99 percent of our lives outside of the justice system.

That’s a dodge, based on a technicality. The legal system is not some mechanism that exists independent of society. It is a formalized version of the kind of thing you are talking about: collectively shunning people or otherwise making their lives more difficult based on a societal perception of wrongdoing. And if we go along with inflicting punishments comparable with, or even worse than, the criminal justice system metes out, without giving someone due process, then we have made “justice” into a sham. At that point, it becomes like we used to see with “issue ads” that were thinly veiled campaign ads. They would insert some kind of verbiage “Call Senator Smith and tell him not to be such a bad person”, but it was an incredibly thin pretext. If we ruin someone’s life without giving them due process, protesting that “this is outside the criminal justice system” rings hollow. At least to me.

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