Stupid question: Pet pigs and Jews/Muslims

Some comedian on TV did a bit saying we should just keep a pig on each plane and Muslims would never destroy one b/c then they would be damned or whatever. Another comedian did a bit about how we should develop “ham launchers” because they don’t even touch pigs/pork products.

But then some Christians make much of not working on the Sabbath, while others don’t follow that guideline.

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carnivorousplant:

When did this happen? I can’t think of any common pet, except maybe a goldfish, that would be kosher.
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Unfortunately I can’t remember the source. I thought it was a Lubavich concept.
Perhaps I am mistaken.

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carnivorousplant:

When did this happen? I can’t think of any common pet, except maybe a goldfish, that would be kosher.
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I think most of the popular caged birds would be kosher, since they are seed- and fruit-eaters. Birds of prey are not kosher, but I’m not aware of any trend toward pet vultures. Hawks or other raptors that are used for hunting wouldn’t be kosher, but (1) those aren’t pets, and (2) Jews traditionally don’t hunt food animals.

Here is a Lubavitch quote that most religious homes don’t have pets although that’s not really what the link is about.
Perhaps that’s where I got the idea, since a search of the site turns up nothing about the Kosherness of pets.

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Murder-I’m assuming that doesn’t include self-defense?
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No, it doesn’t. Murder is killing an innocent person. You can kill the person who is trying to kill you, and you haven’t done anything against Jewish law. But if someone says to A that A must kill innocent person B or C will kill A, A can’t kill B. A can kill C, but not B. To tie it into a thread that is going on now, if you could save your child by killing an innocent third party, you are not allowed to do it under Jewish law. You could save your child by killing the person who is making the threat, but you can’t do it by killing an innocent bystander.

I think every flight should have a therapy dog on board. If having a pig on board each plane would deter Muslim terrorists, having a dog on board would do the same thing, since dogs are also ritually unclean in Islam. And a therapy dog would help calm nervous flyers. It would be really nice for someone like me who likes petting friendly dogs…

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And a therapy dog would help calm nervous flyers. It would be really nice for someone like me who likes petting friendly dogs…
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An explosive sniffing therapy dog! :slight_smile:

I found this site, a Clear Guide to Islam, that says

halal=a-okay

I doubt they had pigs as pets in mind, though, since that’s still a pretty strange thing to most people.

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Some comedian on TV did a bit saying we should just keep a pig on each plane and Muslims would never destroy one b/c then they would be damned or whatever. Another comedian did a bit about how we should develop “ham launchers” because they don’t even touch pigs/pork products.

But then some Christians make much of not working on the Sabbath, while others don’t follow that guideline.
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Considering the time those 19 Muslims did what they did, I’m sure there were pork products on the planes, in the Windows on the World restaurant, and in the stomachs of many of the innocent people they murdered.

It would have been nice if that had stopped them.

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Guinastasia:

Correct. If someone is trying to kill you you are absolutely allowed to kill them first. But if someone says, “Kill X or I’ll kill you” you’re not allowed to commit that murder in order to save your own life.
carnivorousplant:

When did this happen? I can’t think of any common pet, except maybe a goldfish, that would be kosher.
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A pet lox? Pet pickled herring? :smiley: Actually, I have never heard such a thing and I spent the first 5 years of my life in a Lubovidch synagogue- although we weren’t an orthodox home.

One problem is that many or most Muslims come from poor countries. As a generalization, their attitude toward all animals are very different from the Western point of view. I have only one Saudi friend who has an inside-the-house-pet (an African Gray, by the way). The idea of a dog sleeping on your bed creeps them out.

Years ago, by Brother and his Wife sent me a Christmas card (strike One) of the two of them in tuxedos holding their pet pig (Strike Two) who was wearing a bow tie. This caused great excitement in the office. They concluded that Americans are even more nuts than they thought before.

So I am doing my part to maintain our image overseas.