# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1027
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20522 "2015-03-28T15:03:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I do read cites. Iiandyii is just very creative in his interpretation. > > > [@](#): > > > > A public accommodation is a private entity that owns, operates, leases, or leases to, a place of public accommodation. > > He kinda forgot to read the last part: owns, operates, leases, or leases to, a PLACE." A “private entity” is not a place. Public accommodations are “private entities”, not places. You have to be specific and absolutely accurate if you don’t want to be called out for getting things wrong. It only takes a little bit of effort – why don’t you seem willing to expend it? All it takes is to read the cite, say to yourself “okay, public accommodations aren’t specifically places but rather the entities that own these places of business, so I should rephrase my argument”. Please try that. > [@](#): > > The examples given in the cite do not cover anything but actual places. Believe it or not, that is not an oversight on the part of the EEOC. However, iiandyii is welcome to write to them and ask them to add wedding planners, plumbers, and Uber drivers as “public accomodations”/ I don’t believe you. You’re so bad with facts and interpretation that I don’t believe any assertions you make without specific cites that use the exact and specific language you are asserting. This doesn’t meet that criteria. “Public Accommodations” are private entities. Further, many and possibly even most florists, bakers, and wedding planners have “retail stores”, which are specifically cited in your link. They can’t turn away interracial couples, by law, because they’re interracial, and they shouldn’t be able to turn away gay couples because they’re gay. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20523 "2015-03-28T15:05:26Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Great. Another three page hijack by our resident troll. Why do you people continue to let yourselves be baited by this idiot? Many years ago, I made an oath. An oath to powerful forces. To break it could cost me everything I hold dear. I can’t speak of the specifics of the oath, but you can be confident that I made it, and be confident that I must obey it. I’m sorry. EDIT: Also, pointing out **adaher** ’s incredibly lazy posting is kind of a hobby of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20524 "2015-03-28T15:40:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Many years ago, I made an oath. An oath to powerful forces. To break it could cost me everything I hold dear. I can’t speak of the specifics of the oath, but you can be confident that I made it, and be confident that I must obey it. When you were contemplating this oath, did a troll doll come flying in through the window? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20525 "2015-03-28T16:24:08Z")
and did you try to feed it? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20526 "2015-03-28T16:28:48Z")
I admit I’m generous with snacks. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20527 "2015-03-28T16:38:50Z")
Andy Borowitz’s take: > [@](#): > > Indiana Gov. Mike Pence’s enthusiastic embrace of hate and extremism suggests he’s considering entering the GOP presidential race. That’s one qualification. ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20528 "2015-03-28T16:46:49Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > If it participates in a climate where even EMTs use these laws to [refuse to help gay people](http://www.callthecops.net/paramedics-able-refuse-service-based-religious-views/), then it doubly fucking doodly sure does. Fake news is fake. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20529 "2015-03-28T16:52:27Z")
I, for one, would like to thank\*\* Adaher\*\* for defending bigotry and affirming that is a Republican value. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20530 "2015-03-28T17:43:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Here’s a juicy contribution to this thread: > > [Arizona News](http://www.kpho.com/story/28620533/az-senator-church-attendance-should-be-mandatory) > > Republican state Senator wants to make church attendance mandatory. Bonus: she represents someplace called Snowflake, AZ. WTF? You never studied. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20531 "2015-03-28T18:07:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Here’s a juicy contribution to this thread: > > [Arizona News](http://www.kpho.com/story/28620533/az-senator-church-attendance-should-be-mandatory) > > Republican state Senator wants to make church attendance mandatory. Bonus: she represents someplace called Snowflake, AZ. WTF? > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > You never studied. Give him s break, it is clear that he has problems paying attention. He was Ninja’d twice already as that bit of the Arizona Republican dumber critter was posted yesterday in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20532 "2015-03-29T01:59:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Sure it does. I know of no religions that ban people from serving interracial or black couples. . . . They exist. There are also religions that ban people from engaging with divorced persons. Mormonism and the Jehovah’s Witnesses practice shunning of apostates. These laws would permit that to spill over into commerce. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20533 "2015-03-29T02:02:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Your definition of public accomodation is incorrect. A public accommodation is a place. It is not a person. . . . You’re wrong for two reasons. One, the business is the accommodation. Two, businesses all have a “place,” specifically the address listed on their business license. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20534 "2015-03-29T02:16:09Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > I, for one, would like to thank\*\* Adaher\*\* for defending bigotry and affirming that is a Republican value. Bigotry is not always illegal. There are many bad things in this world that we do not deign to put people in jail for. Am I to assume that if I don’t support fining or putting people in jail or taking away their livelihood, that I endorse and defend their behavior? There’s also just the tiny problem of the 1st amendment. I realize that this law has become enemy#1 to liberals everywhere in recent years, but until you can get about 80% of the population to decide that we really don’t need freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or freedom of association, you’re just going to have to live with it. So no, you won’t be putting preachers in jail who call being gay a sin like the other “civilized” countries are doing. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20535 "2015-03-29T02:25:33Z")
Stay the course, **adaher** - Paper Towel Tubeland lay just over the horizon. _Never doubt - never surrender - never be wrong again!_ ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20536 "2015-03-29T02:26:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Bigotry is not always illegal. There are many bad things in this world that we do not deign to put people in jail for. Am I to assume that if I don’t support fining or putting people in jail or taking away their livelihood, that I endorse and defend their behavior? > > There’s also just the tiny problem of the 1st amendment. I realize that this law has become enemy#1 to liberals everywhere in recent years, but until you can get about 80% of the population to decide that we really don’t need freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or freedom of association, you’re just going to have to live with it. So no, you won’t be putting preachers in jail who call being gay a sin like the other “civilized” countries are doing. Excellent straw men. You really beat down that argument about jailing preachers that no one is making. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20537 "2015-03-29T02:34:20Z")
No one was saying we were going to infringe on others’ religious beliefs before gay marriage was legal anywhere. As a matter of fact, advocates were assuring us that NO ONE would be affected and if you didn’t like gay marriage, don’t get gay married. So pardon me if I don’t trust liberal assurances. Anyone who ever parroted that talking point on this board a few years ago should be called out, and believe me, I’ll be looking through the archives. Conservatives warned for years that this would happen and they were called scaremongers. Your side, broadly speaking, lied. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20538 "2015-03-29T02:40:18Z")
So you are saying ten or twenty years from now, I will be able to marry my Percheron? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20539 "2015-03-29T02:43:06Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > No one was saying we were going to infringe on others’ religious beliefs before gay marriage was legal anywhere. As a matter of fact, advocates were assuring us that NO ONE would be affected and if you didn’t like gay marriage, don’t get gay married. > > So pardon me if I don’t trust liberal assurances. Anyone who ever parroted that talking point on this board a few years ago should be called out, and believe me, I’ll be looking through the archives. Conservatives warned for years that this would happen and they were called scaremongers. Your side, broadly speaking, lied. No one’s religious beliefs are infringed upon – at least no more than the CR Act already infringed on any supposed religious beliefs. All we are suggesting is that gay couples should be treated the same as interracial couples. Wedding planners can still do Christian weddings, if that’s what they want. They just have to offer their services to all couples, including gay couples. If you have a cite that florists, bakers, and wedding planners are exempt from the CR Act, present it. You haven’t done so yet. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20540 "2015-03-29T02:44:07Z")
No, although polygamy will probably legal(and I have no problem with that). There was a lot of scaremongering from the right on the subject, but some of it is probably accurate, given what’s going on elsewhere. Multiple marriage is legal in the Netherlands, for example: [http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/301](http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/301) But the bigger problem religious people warned about is that it would indeed result in trampling on their religious freedom. And they were right. Because that’s what was going on in Canada and the UK and it’s what’s going to happen here just as soon as liberals get their way. Part of getting their way is to declare things like the RFRA “extreme”, mainly by basically lying about it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20541 "2015-03-29T02:46:03Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But the bigger problem religious people warned about is that it would indeed result in trampling on their religious freedom. And they were right. No they weren’t, unless you believe the CR Act of 1964 tramples on religious freedom. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1026) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1028)