# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2081 "2010-09-15T19:16:31Z")

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Both good points; neither of which I disagree with. I think these and many other viewpoints are assailable.

It seems, though, that another argument that’s been made here (and elsewhere) is not as sharp–that was the focus of my post. Not whether or not such-and-such fiscal/tax policy is good or whether Mr. or Mrs. Anecdotinski is a hypocrite or not. But whether or not it is sound to advocate and support a policy that not only is extraordinarily unlikely to benefit me personally, but may actually work against my personal interests.

I read the posts above me to continue the thought of “how stupid are those rednecks–they vote as if they’re millionaires, yet they’ll never be one. They’re cutting their own fiscal throat to support a minority of people on the ostensibly far-fetched dream of joining them.” I don’t think that’s necessarily bad. While I disagree with the policy for other reasons, I don’t fault Bubba for not being a member of the class of beneficiaries. Much of what guides my policy outlook is influenced by impacts on classes I am unlikely to be a member of.

Hence my imperfect analogy. I want extensive protections of the Fourth Amendment. But not only do I have nothing to proverbially hide, I am extraordinarily unlikely to be subject to a harassing search. Many (generally more conservative posters), would argue that modest inroads to search protections and greater police leeway would keep crime down and likely benefit me personally.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2082 "2010-09-15T19:50:26Z")

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[You just sort of have to see the pictures to believe it.](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/15/sc-senate-confederate-gop/)

I don’t know who to be more upset about, the soldier or the slaves.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2083 "2010-09-15T20:09:01Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> [You just sort of have to see the pictures to believe it.](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/15/sc-senate-confederate-gop/)
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> I don’t know who to be more upset about, the soldier or the slaves.

But they’re HAPPY slaves. See, it really was for their own good!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2084 "2010-09-15T20:51:45Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> [You just sort of have to see the pictures to believe it.](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/15/sc-senate-confederate-gop/)
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> I don’t know who to be more upset about, the soldier or the slaves.

GodDAMN, my home state just keeps hitting 'em out of the ballpark.

> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> But whether or not it is sound to advocate and support a policy that not only is extraordinarily unlikely to benefit me personally,

I can’t really see a problem with the part of your statement,

> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> but may actually work against my personal interests.

This this party of your statement that I think about when I see behavior like the stuff above.

Poor people who vote for members of a party that consistently campaigns on reducing or eliminating programs that help poor people, or gay people who vote for members of a party that consistently campaigns on denying them basic human rights, Bubba voting for a tax policy that not only will not directly benefit him but will actually end up causing him more harm - yea, I do not believe that these are sound behaviors and ideas.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2085 "2010-09-15T20:58:10Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> [This this party of your statement that I think about when I see behavior like the stuff above.

Okay, WTF?

Sorry.

Edit this to read:

This part of your statement is what I think about when I see behavior like the stuff I talked about above.

Many apologies for my poor communication.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2086 "2010-09-15T21:45:58Z")

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Ok, that’s not slave attire, that’s antebellum attire. Free men dressed that way too. And weren’t Reb uniforms grey?

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2087 "2010-09-15T22:25:58Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Ok, that’s not slave attire, that’s antebellum attire. Free men dressed that way too. **And weren’t Reb uniforms grey?**

hmmm … is he dressed as a _Union_ General perhaps? (the guy in the back is definitely in grey)

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2088 "2010-09-15T22:30:18Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> > [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> > Stupid Republican Tea Party idea of the day for 9/14/10: “Let’s nominate a [horse porn aficionado](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=559522) [for Governor of New York](http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article190591.ece)!”
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> > That frantic clickety-clacking you hear is Andrew Cuomo drafting his victory speech.
> 
> Tea Party Darling Christine “Masturbation Is Bad” O’Donnell in Delaware has apparently won the GOP Senate nomination, as well.

Oh, I’ve been calling her Christine “God would probably want me to turn the Jew over to the Nazis” ODonnell.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2089 "2010-09-15T22:36:21Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Ok, that’s not slave attire, that’s antebellum attire. Free men dressed that way too. And weren’t Reb uniforms grey?

Confederate uniforms were not, um, uniform. Tan, light blue, and gray were used. I don’t know if others were used as well.

Do a Google search of “Confederate uniform”.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2090 "2010-09-15T23:12:02Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Ok, that’s not slave attire, that’s antebellum attire. Free men dressed that way too. And weren’t Reb uniforms grey?

So, considering the timeframe is identified as ‘antebellum’, we can assume those black people are free? :dubious:

Were there white people dressed the same way at that event? Or were they all dressed as Scarlett and Rhett?

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2091 "2010-09-16T00:35:51Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> Oh, I’ve been calling her Christine “God would probably want me to turn the Jew over to the Nazis” ODonnell.

Wait, what’s that story? Such a short time that I’ve known anything about this woman, and so many examples of her idiocy to deal with…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2092 "2010-09-16T00:41:55Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> > [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> > Oh, I’ve been calling her Christine “God would probably want me to turn the Jew over to the Nazis” ODonnell.
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> Wait, what’s that story? Such a short time that I’ve known anything about this woman, and so many examples of her idiocy to deal with…

[O’Donnell So Fervently Pro-Truth That She Wouldn’t Lie To Nazis Asking If She Were Hiding Jews In Her Home](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/15/odonnell-lie-jews/)

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> O’DONNELL: A lie, whether it be a lie or an exaggeration, is disrespect to whoever you’re exaggerating or lying to, because it’s not respecting reality.
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> MAHER: Quite the opposite, it can be respect.
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> IZZARD: What if someone comes to you in the middle of the Second World War and says, ‘do you have any Jewish people in your house?’ and you do have them. That would be a lie. That would be disrespectful to Hitler.
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> O’DONNELL: **I believe if I were in that situation, God would provide a way to do the right thing righteously. I believe that!**
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> MAHER: God is not there. Hitler’s there and you’re there.
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> O’DONNELL: **You never have to practice deception. God always provides a way out.**

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2093 "2010-09-16T00:52:51Z")

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So God’ll twist her words into a lie between the time they leave O’Donnel’s mouth and their reaching the nazi’s ears?  
She’s really putting the old man on the spot there!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2094 "2010-09-16T01:07:57Z")

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So, what? God wasn’t keeping an eye on the Frank house?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2095 "2010-09-16T01:49:13Z")

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Of course not. She’s a stinkin’ Jew.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2096 "2010-09-16T02:05:50Z")

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“Haf you any Jews?”  
“Maybe.”

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2097 "2010-09-16T02:14:24Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> “Haf you any Jews?”

Only Orange. Fancy some?

😉 Too soon?

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**Author:** ![BayouHazard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BayouHazard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BayouHazard)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2098 "2010-09-16T02:16:34Z")

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Hmm…apparently the confederates didn’t have a uniform standard. Some had blue, others went with state colors, and after a while some of the uniforms faded to brown because they dye wasn’t colorfast.  
Eventually they picked gray for cost.

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**Author:** ![BayouHazard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BayouHazard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BayouHazard)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2099 "2010-09-16T02:24:01Z")

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I have a fantasy that a group of someones will go to one of Christine O’Donnel’s campaign stops and sing “Every sperm is sacred,” by Monty Python.

Because a Monty Python reference is always in good taste.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/2100 "2010-09-16T02:57:19Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> So, considering the timeframe is identified as ‘antebellum’, we can assume those black people are free? :dubious:

Is this a whoosh? Antebellum means **before** the war. So no, they aren’t free.

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