# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21022 "2015-04-15T15:51:13Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> The NRA’s [Wayne Lapierre](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/nras-wayne-lapierre-takes-shot-at-obama-as-demographically-symbolic-president/): “Eight years of one demographically symbolic president is enough.”
> 
> I guess his dog whistle was broken (hat tip Jon Stewart).

This is actually pretty stupid for a variety of reasons. First, there are a number of Democrats who support either the NRA or at least responsible gun ownership. Still, I’ll at least give him a pass as the NRA heavily skews Republican and Wayne knows where his bread is buttered.

But the rest? Are there no Black NRA groups? I sure as shit know there are proud women NRA groups. So for the head of the NRA to stand up and say “hey, all you women we’ve been courting for so long? Here’s a nice pat on the head. Try not to get any illusions about running for President though because that’s the white man’s job.”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21023 "2015-04-15T16:12:47Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> But the rest? Are there no Black NRA groups?

Well, I’ve seen depictions of black men with guns in some of the NRA literature but I’m not sure they were supposed to represent NRA members per se…

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21024 "2015-04-15T18:03:56Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I’m not sure they have a grasp on what a natural born citizen is. Rubio was born in Miami. Unless someone disputes this, I’m not sure what the issue is.

Well, he was born in Miami, but his parents were not naturalized until four years later, which makes him an anchor baby, and there is a sector of the RW that questions the legitimacy of citizenship acquired that way.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21025 "2015-04-15T18:15:17Z")

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Yeah, one branch of the birthers say that both a person’s parents have to be either:

1. Natural born US citizens (which means that no immigrant families would ever have descendants who were natural-born. Handy, huh?)

or

1. US Citizens at the time the person was born.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21026 "2015-04-15T18:40:07Z")

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or

1. white and Republican.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21027 "2015-04-15T18:46:49Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> or
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> 1. white and Republican.

You and your demographic warfare!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21028 "2015-04-15T21:39:04Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Yeah, one branch of the birthers say that both a person’s parents have to be either:
> 
> 1. Natural born US citizens (which means that no immigrant families would ever have descendants who were natural-born. Handy, huh?)
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> or
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> 1. US Citizens at the time the person was born.

With #1, you are apparently worried about grandfather clause scenario, but since #2 would (presumably/hopefully) include naturalized citizens, then Marco’s children should be just fine.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21029 "2015-04-15T21:41:27Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Yeah, one branch of the birthers say that both a person’s parents have to be either:
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> 1. Natural born US citizens (which means that no immigrant families would ever have descendants who were natural-born. Handy, huh?)
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> or
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> 1. US Citizens at the time the person was born.

You left out residents of the U.S. at the time the constitution was ratified. 😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21030 "2015-04-15T21:56:45Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Yeah, one branch of the birthers say that both a person’s parents have to be either:
> 
> 1. Natural born US citizens (which means that no immigrant families would ever have descendants who were natural-born. Handy, huh?)
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> or
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> 1. US Citizens at the time the person was born.

> [@Folacin](#):
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> With #1, you are apparently worried about grandfather clause scenario, but since #2 would (presumably/hopefully) include naturalized citizens, then Marco’s children should be just fine.

Doesn’t make any difference, either way. You exit the birth canal within U.S. borders, you’re a natural-born citizen.

Fucking birthers.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21031 "2015-04-15T22:17:18Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Doesn’t make any difference, either way. You exit the birth canal within U.S. borders, you’re a natural-born citizen.
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> Fucking birthers.

I’m not sure if that includes embassies/consulates or prisons but I agree with your main sentiment - as long as the birther is extremely attractive and gagged.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21032 "2015-04-15T22:18:58Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> You left out residents of the U.S. at the time the constitution was ratified. 😃

“Rip Van Winkle? Sounds furrin.”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21033 "2015-04-15T22:36:57Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Yeah, one branch of the birthers say…

Good thing nobody gives a fuck what the birthers say.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21034 "2015-04-15T23:32:24Z")

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The Twitter account of the Senate Republicans tweeted a memorial for today being the 150th anniversary of the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. The wording of the tweet was a bit unfortunate:

> [@](#):
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> 150 years ago today, the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. America is forever indebted.

Once the mistake was pointed out to them, they changed it:

> [@](#):
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> We are forever indebted as a nation to President Lincoln’s service to his country.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21035 "2015-04-15T23:35:17Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> You left out residents of the U.S. at the time the constitution was ratified. 😃

That’s the loophole McCain used.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21036 "2015-04-16T16:24:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Twitter account of the Senate Republicans tweeted a memorial for today being the 150th anniversary of the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. The wording of the tweet was a bit unfortunate:
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> Once the mistake was pointed out to them, they changed it:

They knew what they were saying

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21037 "2015-04-16T16:29:02Z")

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Nah, I don’t think so, I think they just stepped on their dick. Remember, Republicans have gone to great and strenuous lengths to remind us, over and over and over, that Ol’ Abe was a Republican.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21038 "2015-04-16T16:52:22Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Well, I’ve seen depictions of black men with guns in some of the NRA literature but I’m not sure they were supposed to represent NRA members per se…

Those weren’t intended to represent black NRA members (although the NRA would claim that if questioned), they were intended to represent reasons to own a gun.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21039 "2015-04-16T17:13:17Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Those weren’t intended to represent black NRA members (although the NRA would claim that if questioned), they were intended to represent reasons to own a gun.

Yes, that was indeed the exact joke **Gyrate** was making. Well spotted!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21040 "2015-04-16T18:54:31Z")

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[Michigan business owner refuses to serve gay people because you can’t put a car together with “all bolts and no nuts”.](http://www.salon.com/2015/04/16/michigan_business_owner_refuses_to_serve_gay_people_because_you_cant_put_a_car_together_with_all_bolts_and_no_nuts/) (Doesn’t say he’s a Pub, but, you know . . .)

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/21041 "2015-04-16T18:57:27Z")

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Has he set up his GoFundMe page yet?

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