# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22422 "2015-06-21T21:29:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Huh, I’d never heard of [hotair.com](http://hotair.com). A casual perusal of their stories and comments suggests I would not be welcome there, nor would anyone with a working brain.

Sadly, they are actually a lot more moderate than some sites.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22423 "2015-06-21T21:30:12Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Now they have the same headline but the caption is just “Really?” Maybe someone defined “feature” and “bug” for them.

You can still find the original article and caption on their archive page:

> **[BARACK OBAMA](https://hotair.com/tags/barack-obama/)**
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> BARACK OBAMA

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**Author:** ![rsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsa)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22424 "2015-06-22T00:32:31Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> You can still find the original article and caption on their archive page:
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> [BARACK OBAMA – HotAir](http://hotair.com/tags/barack-obama/)

You beat me to it, although I found it in the Yahoo! search page cache instead.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22425 "2015-06-22T01:34:58Z")

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[Huckabee, Santorum think there’s nothing wrong with the Confederate flag being flown if a majority of residents of a state want it to be flown; decline to offer any opinion on whether or not it’s a racist symbol](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_CONFEDERATE_FLAG?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-21-12-58-12).

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22426 "2015-06-22T01:43:27Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Huckabee, Santorum think there’s nothing wrong with the Confederate flag being flown if a majority of residents of a state want it to be flown; decline to offer any opinion on whether or not it’s a racist symbol](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_CONFEDERATE_FLAG?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-21-12-58-12).

So… if the majority of people in those states want segregation?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22427 "2015-06-22T01:45:32Z")

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You know, if you really want to express your disgust with the Confederate battle flag, show it by deliberately flying it upside-down.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22428 "2015-06-22T01:51:37Z")

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Yeah, I’m enjoying the insincere, squirmy verbal dances Republican presidential candidates are having to do, since South Carolina is one of those very early primary states with undue influence.

So, because their party owns the racists, they’re kowtowing to these assholes who think for a state government to fly a symbol of a treasonous uprising that was fought for the cause of slavery, that’s just dandy.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22429 "2015-06-22T20:16:29Z")

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Because he’s a Fox News host, I’m going to assume he’s a Rep.

Look at this photo, and tell me what could possibly go wrong (and it did):

> **[Fox News Host Hits West Point Drummer With Axe In Lumberjack Battle](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pete-hegseth-jeff-prosperie-axe)**
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> Fox News’ Pete Hegseth, co-host of “Fox & Friends,” hit a West Point drummer with an axe during a June 14 segment of the show, Mediaite reported on Monday. The drummer who was hit…

Stay tuned for Fox’s special report on machine guns.  
ETA: yep, he’s a Republican. And he named his son Gunner.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22430 "2015-06-22T20:33:18Z")

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[The president of the Council of Conservative Citizens, which was an influence on Dylann Roof, is a contributor to several Republican Presidential candidates](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/22/1395432/-White-supremacist-cited-on-Dylann-Roof-website-is-a-big-Republican-donor). Only Ted Cruz’s campaign has said that they will give the money back.

The guy lists his occupation on some of the contribution forms as “slumlord”.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22431 "2015-06-22T20:35:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [The president of the Council of Conservative Citizens, which was an influence on Dylann Roof, is a contributor to several Republican Presidential candidates](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/22/1395432/-White-supremacist-cited-on-Dylann-Roof-website-is-a-big-Republican-donor). Only Ted Cruz’s campaign has said that they will give the money back.
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> The guy lists his occupation on some of the contribution forms as “slumlord”.

At least he’s more honest than most slumlords.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22432 "2015-06-22T20:44:26Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Because he’s a Fox News host, I’m going to assume he’s a Rep.
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> Look at this photo, and tell me what could possibly go wrong (and it did):
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> [Fox News Host Hits West Point Drummer With Axe In Lumberjack Battle - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pete-hegseth-jeff-prosperie-axe)
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> Stay tuned for Fox’s special report on machine guns.  
> ETA: yep, he’s a Republican. And he named his son Gunner.

Here’s a video of the incident.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDmuon6tCg)

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22433 "2015-06-22T20:51:56Z")

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One of the talking heads and bosoms over at Fox News seems to be having trouble with [the Confederate Battle Flag, aka The Red Rag of the Rebellion](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/andrea-tantaros-confused-confederate-flag) by quietly ignoring the KKK, the rise of the Dixiecrats, the Southern resistance to the civil rights movement and the sea change in Southern politics that happened when LBJ pushed and signed the several civil rights acts. Some how it seems to give the talking heads and bosoms some pleasure to identify the Democrats of 1860 with the party of the same name as it has existed since 1948.

I can’t help but remember the political slogan of the post Civil War era, that, to paraphrase, for every bullet fired at soldier boy in blue the trigger was pulled by a Democrat.

The two views are equally dishonest.

It hardly needs to be said that the Red Rag, no matter what it may have meant in terms of devotion to duty, suffering, loss and comradeship to the veterans of the Rebel armies, (US Grant quote: no better men ever served a worse cause) it quickly became the rallying point of White Supremacy during Reconstruction and it has remained so for almost 150 years. That means that for the lifetime of everyone who is around now it has been the symbol of White Supremacy as long as they or their parents or grandparents can remember. To pretend otherwise is to seek to avoid reality and to wallow in the general dishonesty of the whole thing.

This from a guy whose antecedent helped burn down Columbia SC in the Spring of '65 and wishes his Great-great-grandfather had done a more complete job.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22434 "2015-06-22T20:57:08Z")

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Fox News Host says that the Confederate flag is the flag of the Democratic Party.

> **[Fox News Gets Desperate and Calls The Confederate Flag The Flag Of The...](http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/22/fox-news-desperate-calls-confederate-flag-flag-democratic-party.html)**
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> In a desperate attempt to hide their role in pushing the GOP's racist rhetoric, Fox News is claiming that the Confederate flag is the flag of the Democratic Party.

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> Fox News host Andrea Tantaros said, “You know what baffles the mind? This isn’t a Republican flag. Historically this was the flag of southern Democrats, remember that, fact? I find this flag offensive. This flag represents the fight in slavery, and it was a flag that the southern Democrats — Democrats — used to fly against Northern Republicans so I’m not sure why Republicans are getting peppered over this.”
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> Tantaros brought up an old time favorite misleading statement by the right. Southerners did support the Democratic Party, but what Fox News likes to leave out is that racist ideological strain left the Democratic Party and moved over to the Republicans during the Civil Rights movement.

In a perverse way, this may actually be a good sign. Fox News is now demonizing the Confederate battle flag. Granted, they’re doing it in their own weird twisted Orwellian way of doing things, but they are demonizing it. It seems like the right may be ready to give in on this particular issue.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22435 "2015-06-22T21:03:34Z")

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We’ll know the struggle is won when the Fox News crawler displays “Confederate Battle Flag (D) Has Ties To Charleston Killer.”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22436 "2015-06-22T21:24:06Z")

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I would have instead expected a crawler saying something like:

“Governor Nikki Haley (D) declares Confederate flag will be removed from capitol grounds.”

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22437 "2015-06-22T21:44:35Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> And adopted glasses to make himself look smart. So far, they are not working.

The glasses are supposed to keep people from noticing that he’s the same doofus who ran for President last time, like the way Clark Kent’s glasses keep people from noticing that he’s Superman.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22438 "2015-06-22T21:52:04Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The glasses are supposed to keep people from noticing that he’s the same doofus who ran for President last time, like the way Clark Kent’s glasses keep people from noticing that he’s Superman.

So, you’re saying Rick Perry wears tights in his spare time and can look through people’s clothing?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22439 "2015-06-22T22:19:01Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> So, you’re saying Rick Perry wears tights in his spare time and can look through people’s clothing?

Also, he likes to get naked in phone booths.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22440 "2015-06-22T22:23:25Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Also, he likes to get naked in phone booths.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, there _are_ no phone booths.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22441 "2015-06-22T22:24:25Z")

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It’s not naked if he’s wearing glasses.

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