# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22902 "2015-07-12T16:12:44Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> [If Jeb Bush were president he’d do away with nuance and big syllable words.](http://www.nationalmemo.com/jeb-blasts-obama-for-big-syllable-words-and-lots-of-fancy-conferences-and-meetings/)

Is this Republican-ese for “If I were President, I’d blow up a lot more shit than Obama has?”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22903 "2015-07-12T20:49:04Z")

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Trump says the he will fine Mexico $100,000 for every illegal crossing the border.

> **[Trump wins over GOP faithful with anti-Mexico speech in Las Vegas](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3157729/Trump-takes-incendiary-immigration-views-GOP-faithful-Tycoon-tells-thousands-U-S-outsmarted-cunning-Mexico.html)**
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> The Republican front-runner got 25 rounds of applause with yet more fierce rhetoric against immigrants - even bringing on stage a father whose son was killed by an illegal.

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> Donald Trump has won over Republican voters with a pair of speeches to the party faithful, attacking the government of Mexico and outlining a plan to charge them $100,000 for every illegal immigrant who crosses the southern border.

How do we accurately count people who are secretly sneaking across the border, and how do you prove that count to Mexico?

How do we make Mexico pay the fine? Do we go to war when they refuse?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22904 "2015-07-12T21:00:54Z")

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We make them take Texas back.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22905 "2015-07-12T21:09:09Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> How do we make Mexico pay the fine? Do we go to war when they refuse?

Well, invading and occupying Mexico _would_ solve the problem of Mexican citizens emigrating to America, since there’d no longer be any such place as “Mexico” away from which they could steal.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22906 "2015-07-12T21:51:57Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> How do we accurately count people who are secretly sneaking across the border, and how do you prove that count to Mexico?
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> How do we make Mexico pay the fine? Do we go to war when they refuse?

I’m a little more fascinated by the economic consequences if such a thing could be put into effect. If the U.S. suddenly turned a profit on each immigrant who crossed the border illegally, it would be in our interest to encourage as many as possible. Does Trump say if he’d send them back, or does that $100,000 buy them the right to stay here? If we do deport them, we could send them back with instructions on how best to sneak back in.

Mexico, on the other hand, would now have the economic incentive to keep people in. They could build a fortified fence and guard towers to keep people from crossing the border at all costs. I seem to remember when East Germany did that we criticized them, too.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22907 "2015-07-12T22:29:57Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Well, invading and occupying Mexico _would_ solve the problem of Mexican citizens emigrating to America, since there’d no longer be any such place as “Mexico” away from which they could steal.

Fuck 'em, and the horse upon in which they rode.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22908 "2015-07-12T22:50:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> We make them take Texas back.

That’s cold, luci.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22909 "2015-07-12T22:56:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> We make them take Texas back.

> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> That’s cold, luci.

Hey, Texas wants to leave the Union.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22910 "2015-07-12T23:35:36Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Fuck 'em, and the horse upon in which they rode.

\*In \*which they rode ? Are Mexicans Greek now ?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22911 "2015-07-12T23:44:11Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Hey, Texas wants to leave the Union.

Yeah, what the hell did Mexico ever do to deserve Texas? Mexico has enough problems as it is.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22912 "2015-07-13T15:24:19Z")

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More importantly, how do we go about securing the border with Texas? I mean, there will be _some_ people who actually want to stay in Texas, but can we handle the inevitable influx of refugees? Is suffocating stupidity a justification for refugee status?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22913 "2015-07-13T15:53:03Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Is this Republican-ese for “If I were President, I’d blow up a lot more shit than Obama has?”

“Blow them all up and let god sort it out” only contains words of one syllable, and in terms of foreign policy what more do you need?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22914 "2015-07-13T16:00:58Z")

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[Texans to “practice counter-insurgency” while U.S. special forces participate in Operation Jade Helm.](http://www.salon.com/2015/07/13/texans_to_practice_counter_insurgency_while_u_s_special_forces_participate_in_operation_jade_helm/#)

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> In response to the multi-state military exercise organized by the federal government, a group of very concerned Texans have organized what they’re calling “Counter Jade Helm,” in which “citizens will participate in an unofficial fashion to practice counter-insurgency, organizational and intelligence gathering and reporting skills.”
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> Operation Jade Helm begins on July 15th, but as the media is barred from covering the exercise, citizen surveillance is the only option that people like retired firefighter Eric Johnson have to assuage their concerns about what the SEALs, Green Berets, and Air Force Special Ops are actually up to.
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> “If a team member sees two Humvees full of soldiers driving through town, they’re going to follow them,” Johnston told the Houston Chronicle’s Dylan Baddour. “And they’re going to radio back their ultimate location.”

Nitpicks:

1. What you’re describing is not counter-insurgency, it is insurgency. Counter-insurgency means putting down rebels.
2. What you’re describing is not even insurgency, it’s more like what the Black Panthers used to do, following cops around to deter police brutality.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22915 "2015-07-13T16:01:56Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> “Blow them all up and let god sort it out” only contains words of one syllable, and in terms of foreign policy what more do you need?

But are they big syllables or little syllables?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22916 "2015-07-13T16:05:28Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Texans to “practice counter-insurgency” while U.S. special forces participate in Operation Jade Helm.](http://www.salon.com/2015/07/13/texans_to_practice_counter_insurgency_while_u_s_special_forces_participate_in_operation_jade_helm/#)
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> Nitpicks:
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> 1. What you’re describing is not counter-insurgency, it is insurgency. Counter-insurgency means putting down rebels.
> 2. What you’re describing is not even insurgency, it’s more like what the Black Panthers used to do, following cops around to deter police brutality.

They’re announcing that they intend to interfere with military exercises? It seems like that must be illegal somehow.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22917 "2015-07-13T16:33:34Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Nitpicks:
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> 1. What you’re describing is not counter-insurgency, it is insurgency. Counter-insurgency means putting down rebels.

This being the Republic of Texas, I’m sure they view the US military as an insurgent force.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22918 "2015-07-13T16:46:16Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Texans to “practice counter-insurgency” while U.S. special forces participate in Operation Jade Helm.](http://www.salon.com/2015/07/13/texans_to_practice_counter_insurgency_while_u_s_special_forces_participate_in_operation_jade_helm/#)

Get your United States out of my Texas!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22919 "2015-07-13T16:56:49Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> This being the Republic of Texas, I’m sure they view the US military as an insurgent force.

Don’t insurgencies usually come from the inside? They’re more likely to view to view the US military as a foreign force.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22920 "2015-07-13T17:13:45Z")

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Judge Roy Moore says that the U.S. Supreme Court “destroyed the institution of God” by legalizing same-sex marriage.

> **[Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore: Same-sex marriage ruling...](https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2015/07/alabama_supreme_court_chief_ju.html)**
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> "Satan drives us. He's out there destroying everything God created including us as human beings."

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> Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore told a church crowd on Sunday that the U.S. Supreme Court “destroyed the institution of God” by legalizing same-sex marriage.

So apparently he thinks:  
[ul][li]God is an institution.[\*]God can be destroyed and SCOTUS has done so.[/ul][/li]Then there’s this gem from the same article.

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> “What we’ve been taught is somehow Christianity is bad for our country. And that government can’t have anything to do with Christianity … Religious liberty is for everybody. But you’ve got to recognize a particular God. You can’t recognize Mohammed because Mohammed doesn’t give you religious liberty. Mohammad enforces, they enforce Islam through the state. That’s why this country is so different. You don’t enforce Islam or any other religion. You don’t enforce Christianity. Christianity is not something you can enforce. But you can encourage it. But you can’t establish one sect of Christians over another.”

So you can have religious freedom as long as the religion you freely choose is his.

I have to say it seems pointless to belong to a religion who’s god has been destroyed, but what do I know?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22921 "2015-07-13T17:17:44Z")

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[quote=“davidm, post:22920, topic:490897”]

So apparently he thinks:  
[ul]  
[li]God is an institution.[/li][li]God can be destroyed and SCOTUS has done so.[/li][/QUOTE]

[/ul]  
So _now_ can we talk about abolishing all the churches and their various privileges ? 😛

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