# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23142 "2015-07-21T09:56:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [General Wesley Clark wants all Muslims rounded up and put in internment camps.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/07/20/general-wesley-clark-disloyal-americans-need-to-be-put-into-camps-segregated-from-society-video/)

Clark is a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23143 "2015-07-21T12:42:49Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> It kinda looks like, if he kept going, he might get the right (sort of) result. It looks like the blue field is facing downward. If Walker did two more triangular folds that field would wrap around and be on the outside. So he’s not got all the details right, but he’s not totally clueless, either.
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> But taking the picture down as if it never happened is a act of craven puppyhood.

No, it appears he started the triangle folds from the wrong side. The first step is to fold the flag twice, lengthwise, so that you only have the blue field/stars showing on one end. Then the triangle folds will end up with only blue showing when done.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23144 "2015-07-21T13:35:18Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Eventually someone is going to propose renaming the country to “The United States of Reagan”. Maybe the entire continent: North [del]America[/del] Reagan, Central [del]America[/del] Reagan, and South [del]America[/del] Reagan.

Then Antarctica is now Little Reagan (a very cold and lifeless place, just ask Nancy).

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23145 "2015-07-21T14:54:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [And Franklin Graham thinks they should just be banned from the United States.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/07/19/bush-religious-adviser-ban-all-muslims-its-o-k-we-did-it-in-wwii-images/)

Someone here fight my ignorance, please.

Franklin Graham seems to be a Christian Evangelical of a hateful intolerant variety. We’ve seen his name mentioned w/r/t other intolerant things he’s said too, ISTM. How does this compare with his old man? Did father Billy ever talk like that? Where did Franklin learn to be like this?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23146 "2015-07-21T15:38:44Z")

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Franklin is much more extreme than Billy.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23147 "2015-07-21T17:44:03Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Franklin is much more extreme than Billy.

We know he’s publicly more extreme. Impossible to say if Billy was more extreme in private than he showed in his public persona.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23148 "2015-07-21T18:20:31Z")

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Billy Graham, at least in public, always seemed to be quite non-partisan and apolitical. That doesn’t mean he didn’t believe things that some people wouldn’t like, but I don’t recall him making very many pronouncements about public or government policy.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23149 "2015-07-21T18:48:54Z")

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i seem to recall that Billy was teetotal and Franklin is not. Other than that, I really don’t pay attention to the Grahams.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23150 "2015-07-21T19:25:00Z")

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Come on, isn’t _somebody_ going to call him a stupid cracker?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23151 "2015-07-21T19:27:53Z")

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Billy was the unofficial White House cleric for the Nixon years, until he finally came around to the conclusion that the Viet Nam War was wrong and unChristian. But he and Nixon both agreed that the Jewish “stanglehold” on American media was a big problem.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRg7xvWyYog)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23152 "2015-07-21T19:33:37Z")

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[Governor of Arizona orders state Department of Health to ban the sale of fetal tissue.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/21/1404274/-Arizona-guv-bans-thing-that-is-already-illegal)Something which is already illegal, and also something which isn’t being done.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23153 "2015-07-21T19:40:20Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> It kinda looks like, if he kept going, he might get the right (sort of) result. It looks like the blue field is facing downward. If Walker did two more triangular folds that field would wrap around and be on the outside. So he’s not got all the details right, but he’s not totally clueless, either.
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> But taking the picture down as if it never happened is a act of craven puppyhood.

For those of us without Facebook, can you describe what’s going on?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23154 "2015-07-21T19:48:42Z")

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Walker posted [this image](https://wcmcoop.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/walker-flag1.jpg) on Facebook for the benefit of his fans, to show off his patriotism chops.

Meanwhile, [this image](http://www.amsvans.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/vet2.jpg) depicts it being done correctly. If you can see stripes being held by the guy who’s not making triangles, it’s been started wrong.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23155 "2015-07-21T20:15:53Z")

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[Donald Trump gives out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell phone number](http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/9010883/donald-trump-lindsey-graham). But that’s just one part of this … interesting … speech.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23156 "2015-07-21T22:26:51Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Donald Trump gives out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell phone number](http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/9010883/donald-trump-lindsey-graham). But that’s just one part of this … interesting … speech.

Did… did he just walk onstage to [Hulk Hogan’s theme song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKM1AAzeRCg) ? If you had any lingering doubts he wasn’t flat out taking the piss out of the morons who cheer for him…

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23157 "2015-07-21T22:41:19Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> No, it appears he started the triangle folds from the wrong side. The first step is to fold the flag twice, lengthwise, so that you only have the blue field/stars showing on one end. Then the triangle folds will end up with only blue showing when done.

Yeah, when you do it right you have a thin strip (one quarter the height of the flag) with stars on the top and bottom of one end; you fold that in triangles (starting at the striped end) and end with a triangle with only stars showing. But that part that ends up showing was the side of the strip facing downwards.

In the Walker picture, he’s got the thin strip, but with stripes on the top where there should be stars. But it looks to me like the bottom of the strip, the side facing downward, is blue. (You can only see a little bit of it.) If he keeps going the way he is, that downward-facing material will become the outside of the final triangle.

I may be wrong about the part of the flag we can’t see; maybe it isn’t blue at all. And if it is blue, I have no idea how Walker got to that configuration.

Still, craven puppyhood.

What a great phrase, “craven puppyhood”.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23158 "2015-07-21T23:12:03Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Did… did he just walk onstage to [Hulk Hogan’s theme song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKM1AAzeRCg) ? If you had any lingering doubts he wasn’t flat out taking the piss out of the morons who cheer for him…

I’d pay money to see Trump debate the Iron Sheik.

“Iran number 1, Russia number 1, USA… hawk, ptooey!”

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23159 "2015-07-22T00:16:30Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Meanwhile, [this image](http://www.amsvans.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/vet2.jpg) depicts it being done correctly. If you can see stripes being held by the guy who’s not making triangles, it’s been started wrong.

Are you kidding? Look at that strip of red VISIBLY abutting the blue! And the lengthwise folds are uneven–BY TWO INCHES!!! You two stop and do it over again, then keep doing it until Taps. No Scout in my command will be seen abusing the flag in that manner. :mad:

Oh, they’re Air Force. There’s no teaching them anything. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23160 "2015-07-22T01:47:09Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Donald Trump gives out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell phone number](http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/9010883/donald-trump-lindsey-graham). But that’s just one part of this … interesting … speech.

Why does Donald Trump have Lindsey Graham’s cell phone number? If I was Graham, I wouldn’t have given it to him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23161 "2015-07-22T02:14:17Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Why does Donald Trump have Lindsey Graham’s cell phone number? If I was Graham, I wouldn’t have given it to him.

He claims that Graham asked him for “help” for something.

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