# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23262 "2015-07-25T17:18:24Z")

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Why won’t Obama just _leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead_!!!? With leaderly leadership.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23263 "2015-07-25T18:58:40Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Not a SRIOTD – not even stupid, period – but this seems like a good place to note: Gov John Kasich interviewed on NPR this morning, and was asked about his faith. He came _this_ close to describing himself as spiritual-but-not-religious, and explicitly said that he doesn’t use the bible to decide on policy. Stunning.

Depending on how well his poll numbers go once he’s actually fully in the race, I may have to take whoever it was that said that we had to worry about Kasich the most seriously.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23264 "2015-07-25T19:17:01Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Wow, the stupid burns.

For self-inflicted stupidity burns, such as those you are suffering from, I recommend a nice salve, known under the brand name “Get the Facts Right Before You Post, You Imbecile.”

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23265 "2015-07-25T19:19:15Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Not a SRIOTD – not even stupid, period – but this seems like a good place to note: Gov John Kasich interviewed on NPR this morning, and was asked about his faith…and explicitly said that he doesn’t use the bible to decide on policy. Stunning.

Well, there goes his chance to be the GOP nominee.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23266 "2015-07-25T19:57:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And another thing, Obama - how come I can’t get no Tang 'round here?

It’s all those dang-fangled new Affirmative Consent laws that Obama has personally single-handedly shoved down all our throats, that’s how come!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23267 "2015-07-25T20:34:19Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Well, we’re still engaging you, for some reason…

Some of you do. Not everyone, and the rest of us would like you to stop.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23268 "2015-07-25T20:47:42Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> You need to explain to me how the OPM hack and the VA are Obama failures.

For the VA at least, it’s because he didn’t do everything possible to fix all the problems Bush told him about at the handover.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23269 "2015-07-25T21:00:55Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> My impression of Kasich is someone who is really really religious. Not always in your face (though sometimes), and not always hypocritical about it (though sometimes), but really religious.

As long as he respects the division between government and religion, that’s OK with me.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23270 "2015-07-25T23:43:15Z")

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[Talking about a war on women is unpatriotic.](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/06/1081237/-RNC-official-Talking-about-anti-woman-Republican-policies-is-unpatriotic)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23271 "2015-07-26T01:43:32Z")

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Jerome Corsi (WorldNetCrazy) has a huge scoop: [Hillary is in a lesbian relationship with her Muslim aide, and they are both agents of the Muslim Brotherhood.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jerome-corsi-exposes-hillary-clintons-lesbian-muslim-brotherhood-conspiracy)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23272 "2015-07-26T02:05:11Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> For the VA at least, it’s because he didn’t do everything possible to fix all the problems Bush told him about at the handover.

It’s understood that a lot of problems were inherited. Name one agency of government that works better now than under Bush. And there is actually an obvious one, so that should be a freebie for you if you actually pay attention to issues like this. Once you name that one, you can give me another. You’d think a successful President could improve at least TWO of the myriad government agencies, no? Because several have gotten worse under Obama.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23273 "2015-07-26T03:26:56Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Name one agency of government that works better now than under Bush.

…all of them?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23274 "2015-07-26T03:31:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Jerome Corsi (WorldNetCrazy) has a huge scoop: [Hillary is in a lesbian relationship with her Muslim aide, and they are both agents of the Muslim Brotherhood.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jerome-corsi-exposes-hillary-clintons-lesbian-muslim-brotherhood-conspiracy)

The Muslim Brotherhood is pretty much the 21st century’s Elders of Zion/International Communist Conspiracy, isn’t it ?

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23275 "2015-07-26T03:38:14Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> You’d think a successful President could improve at least TWO of the myriad government agencies, no? Because several have gotten worse under Obama.

Probably the same ones that have been underfunded or have had their budgets slashed by Congress. Let’s see, you mention [HHS](http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20150625/NEWS/150629934), [the IRS](http://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/irs-funding-cuts-continue-to-compromise-taxpayer-service-and-weaken-enforcement), and [the ATF](http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/ATF-poorly-armed-with-funding-as-duties-grow-4950373.php).

So why don’t you go derail threads elsewhere, you disingenuous idiot?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23276 "2015-07-26T03:48:41Z")

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Oh of course, it’s because they don’t have enough money. Funny, they sure had enough money to do expensive conferences and stay in the best hotels.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23277 "2015-07-26T03:52:43Z")

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Can you cite that they actually stay in the best hotels?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23278 "2015-07-26T03:59:46Z")

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[http://www.rt.com/usa/irs-funds-inappropriate-spending-176/](http://www.rt.com/usa/irs-funds-inappropriate-spending-176/)

If agencies are being underfunded, that’s a serious problem. But any agency that is actually underfunded will, you know, act like they are underfunded.

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> An August 2010 conference in Anaheim, Calif., cost the IRS $4 million. About 2,600 managers attended the event and stayed in presidential hotel suites that usually cost $1,500 to $3,500 per night. About 15 outside speakers were paid $135,000 each, one of which was hired to discuss “leadership through art”, according to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which released the excerpts.

Obviously an agency that is struggling financially.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23279 "2015-07-26T04:13:53Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> [http://www.rt.com/usa/irs-funds-inappropriate-spending-176/](http://www.rt.com/usa/irs-funds-inappropriate-spending-176/)
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> If agencies are being underfunded, that’s a serious problem. But any agency that is actually underfunded will, you know, act like they are underfunded.
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> Obviously an agency that is struggling financially.

I note that your cite states that these meetings were holdovers from a previous era (Bush) and that the spending has been curtailed. In other words, Obama discovered the problem that his predecessor’s administration allowed and put a stop to it.

In other other words: you’re fucking wrong again, you piece of shit dumbass ignorant corksucker. You’re so fucking stupid you’re own cites refute you.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23280 "2015-07-26T04:15:25Z")

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The administration did make changes in response to the media furor, this is true. The IRS is still not doing its job properly though. Conservative groups are still being targeted and the GAO says that the audit selection process is not being properly documented. That is not actually a problem from previous administrations, that’s one that arose because Democrats demanded more scrutiny of these groups and because all kinds of agencies are going rogue on the President.

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**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23281 "2015-07-26T06:22:43Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> The administration did make changes in response to the media furor, this is true. The IRS is still not doing its job properly though. Conservative groups are still being targeted and the GAO says that the audit selection process is not being properly documented. That is not actually a problem from previous administrations, that’s one that arose because Democrats demanded more scrutiny of these groups and because all kinds of agencies are going rogue on the President.

Maybe conservative groups are being targeted because they’re disproportionately trying to beat the system.

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