# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23622 "2015-08-13T13:34:32Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> ISIS started in Syria, so that’s on Assad. They invaded Iraq because we weren’t there anymore.

ISIS didn’t invade Iraq; they are the same insurgents we’ve been fighting for 12 years. If anything ISIS invaded Syria. Call them Sunni militias, call them AQ in Iraq, call them ISIS, it’s the same faces and their sons and recruits. Which would not exist if we never went into Iraq in the first place. The emergence of ISIS is on a direct line from the Bush decision to invade Iraq.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23623 "2015-08-13T13:39:01Z")

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[From your favorite polling site:](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/14/student_to_jeb_bush_your_brother_created_isis.html) Student to ¡Jeb!: “Your brother created ISIS.”

¡Jeb! to reporter right after Obama’s election: “No tengo futuro.”

Both statements were correct.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23624 "2015-08-13T13:43:58Z")

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So of course it’s okay for Democrats to lose to ISIS, because it’s Bush’s fault. Got it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23625 "2015-08-13T13:49:46Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> So of course it’s okay for Democrats to lose to ISIS, because it’s Bush’s fault. Got it.

A statement none of us have made. So you don’t got it.

You may recall that what prompted this was Jeb blaming Obama for the mess in Iraq. You’ve been shown that the mess in Iraq is due to a far greater degree to Jeb’s brother and his administration. You’ve failed to demonstrate otherwise.

Again - no one has said that the mess in Iraq is “okay”; only that ascribing all the blame for it to Obama is ludicrously wrong.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23626 "2015-08-13T13:52:40Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> So of course it’s okay for Democrats to lose to ISIS, because it’s Bush’s fault. Got it.

So of course it’s okay for the Republican candidates to have no fucking clue what to do except blame Obama. As usual. Got it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23627 "2015-08-13T13:55:01Z")

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Also, why it the “Democrats” losing to ISIS? I’m pretty sure ISIS aren’t running in the next election.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23628 "2015-08-13T13:59:57Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> So of course it’s okay for Democrats to lose to ISIS, because it’s Bush’s fault. Got it.

The only losers to ISIS are Iraq, Syria and the other regional players who don’t care enough to defend themselves.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23629 "2015-08-13T22:24:59Z")

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Carly Fiorina doesn’t think we need to have maternity leave. When she’s President, she will just somehow, magically, [“fix” the economy so that employers will have to give lavish benefits to keep their employees](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carly-fiorina-paid-leave_55ccec50e4b0898c4886de6e).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23630 "2015-08-13T23:01:01Z")

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Starting with HP?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23631 "2015-08-13T23:16:58Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Remind me again of our objectives in Iraq and Afghanistan,…

We had objectives? Actual, real, live, written down goals? A checklist to consult? Because it always seemed like we jumped in without thinking. ☹

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23632 "2015-08-13T23:24:04Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Starting with HP?

That’s the method in her madness. Give great benefits to employees, but first make sure there are no employees.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23633 "2015-08-13T23:42:28Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> We had objectives? Actual, real, live, written down goals? A checklist to consult? Because it always seemed like we jumped in without thinking. ☹

As always, our objective was FREEDOM. As a bonus, we retook Fries from the French.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23634 "2015-08-13T23:45:25Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> As always, our objective was FREEDOM. As a bonus, we retook Fries from the French.

Come to think of it, why did no one engage in Freedom-kissing?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23635 "2015-08-13T23:48:50Z")

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Some tried, but were subjected to a brutal tongue-lashing.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23636 "2015-08-13T23:53:46Z")

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Others were tortured in Gitmo with tongue-twisting.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23637 "2015-08-14T00:02:47Z")

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Bite your tongue!!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23638 "2015-08-14T03:32:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Carly Fiorina doesn’t think we need to have maternity leave. When she’s President, she will just somehow, magically, [“fix” the economy so that employers will have to give lavish benefits to keep their employees](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carly-fiorina-paid-leave_55ccec50e4b0898c4886de6e).

That was a minor recurring element in Any Rand’s novels, as I recall: employers like Gail Wynand, Hank Rearden and the 20th Century Motor Company paying the highest wages in their industries, for which they got the best employees.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23639 "2015-08-14T21:41:56Z")

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[Jim Bakker and Rick Wiles think Jade Helm (yes, they’re still on that) is the government’s excuse to take over Texas because of its proposed gold depository.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jim-bakker-preparing-go-jail-again-time-because-jade-helm-15)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23640 "2015-08-14T22:15:25Z")

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> …Wiles previously predicted that Jade Helm 15 could lead to a nuclear attack on Texas…

Willy might be there. Bad idea.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23641 "2015-08-14T22:18:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Jim Bakker and Rick Wiles think Jade Helm (yes, they’re still on that) is the government’s excuse to take over Texas because of its proposed gold depository.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jim-bakker-preparing-go-jail-again-time-because-jade-helm-15)

Which, since Jade Helm was publicly announced by DOD months before Texas started talking about a gold depository, leads us firmly to one conclusion;

Obama is from the future.

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