# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1194
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23862 "2015-08-27T20:23:59Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > What’s not great about America right now, anyway? Seriously, that’s always struck me as weird. Glenn Beck, for example, will rant for hours about how we’re on the wrong track, America has lost everything that ever made it great, we’ve “passed the last offramp, and it’s time to stop the car and go back,” America has been destroyed, etc. And in almost the next breath, will condemn liberals as the “Hate America First” crowd. What th’?? The conservative movement, as it is currently constituted, is totally “anti-” and doesn’t have anything productive to offer. How, exactly would Trump “make America great” again? What are his concrete proposals? (We know about deporting 12 million illegal aliens, and building a fence that Mexico would pay for, but this is just sloganeering, akin to “Let’s make Jerusalem an International City.” Okay, even if it were a good idea…how? How exactly?) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23863 "2015-08-27T23:05:29Z")
> [@](#): > > The conservative movement, as it is currently constituted, is totally “anti-” and doesn’t have anything productive to offer. How, exactly would Trump “make America great” again? What are his concrete proposals? Trump has no idea. He’s just going to turn it all over to “managers” who know what they’re doing. At least, that’s what he said about immigration. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23864 "2015-08-27T23:32:44Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > What’s not great about America right now, anyway? President of the wrong color, duh. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23865 "2015-08-28T00:50:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump has no idea. He’s just going to turn it all over to “managers” who know what they’re doing. At least, that’s what he said about immigration. But let’s not mock that approach; it’s one of the few that work well in business and in government. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23866 "2015-08-28T00:59:15Z")
> [@j666](#): > > But let’s not mock that approach; it’s one of the few that work well in business and in government. Judging by Trump’s business problems and bankruptcies, I don’t see any particular reason to view him as capable of selecting competent managers. It’s also worth considering his personality, which is completely opposed to people telling him, “No, you can’t do that,” which a competent manager has to have the ability and freedom to do. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23867 "2015-08-28T01:04:55Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Judging by Trump’s business problems and bankruptcies, I don’t see any particular reason to view him as capable of selecting competent managers. It’s also worth considering his personality, which is completely opposed to people telling him, “No, you can’t do that,” which a competent manager has to have the ability and freedom to do. Valid points, I do agree. Like all good theories, I can fail in the implementation. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23868 "2015-08-28T01:05:54Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Judging by Trump’s business problems and bankruptcies, I don’t see any particular reason to view him as capable of selecting competent managers. It’s also worth considering his personality, which is completely opposed to people telling him, “No, you can’t do that,” which a competent manager has to have the ability and freedom to do. But he has a really transparent process for selecting managers. It takes 13 weeks, a dozen candidates and a series of increasingly improbable test scenarios, with the winners and losers dependent on test audience reactions and overall ratings. Plus, it’ll all be funded by corporate advertising and product placement fees- _taxpayer win!_ ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23869 "2015-08-28T01:44:11Z")
This woman has a great response for the GOP’s misogynists: [http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/23/woman-to-gop-i-didnt-come-from-your-rib-you-came-from-my-vagina-video/](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/23/woman-to-gop-i-didnt-come-from-your-rib-you-came-from-my-vagina-video/) (No, no graphics, just a funny song.) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23870 "2015-08-28T02:31:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump has no idea. He’s just going to turn it all over to “managers” who know what they’re doing. At least, that’s what he said about immigration. > [@j666](#): > > But let’s not mock that approach; it’s one of the few that work well in business and in government. So, he’d surround himself with competence, in much the same way that a hole surrounds itself with doughnut? We got that once already, with Shrubya. No thanks. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23871 "2015-08-28T03:17:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So, he’d surround himself with competence, in much the same way that a hole surrounds itself with doughnut? > > We got that once already, with Shrubya. No thanks. FWIW, [here are the positions](http://ballotpedia.org/Sam_Clovis) held by the guy he just hired as his national campaign co-chair. Apologies for the formatting, it’s much more readable at the link: Legally require hiring women & minorities Strongly Opposes Abortion is a woman’s unrestricted right Strongly Opposes Expand Obamacare Strongly Opposes Comfortable with same-sex marriage Strongly Opposes Vouchers for school choice Favors Keep God in the public sphere Strongly Favors Absolute right to gun ownership Strongly Favors No ‘rights’ to clean air and water Opposes Higher taxes on the wealthy Strongly Opposes Stricter punishment reduces crime Strongly Favors Support & expand free trade Favors Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens Strongly Opposes More enforcement of the right to vote Strongly Opposes Maintain US sovereignty from UN Strongly Favors Prioritize green energy Strongly Opposes Expand the military Strongly Favors Stimulus better than market-led recovery Strongly Opposes Stay out of Iran Strongly Opposes Privatize Social Security Strongly Favors Never legalize marijuana Opposes ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23872 "2015-08-28T03:40:37Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > . . . No ‘rights’ to clean air and water Opposes > . . . Never legalize marijuana Opposes If I read these correctly, and am not getting fooled by a double negative…then there are these, at least, where I can agree with him! I bet a pickle there’s a double negative here, and he’s 100% wrong on the whole damn list. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23873 "2015-08-28T04:14:53Z")
Predictable. [Virginia shooting was a false flag operation to take our guns.](http://reverbpress.com/news/wdbj-shooting-false-flag/) ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23874 "2015-08-28T04:17:17Z")
Whenever someone mentions Trump, I think “Trumpy”. I want to somehow make it where Trumpy shows up in any feed acknowledging Trump. Hey, most for his followers believe in Trumpy Magic! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/35U255Si7C0/hqdefault.jpg "MST3K -303- Pod People: Trumpy Does Magic!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35U255Si7C0) ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23875 "2015-08-28T04:22:01Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > If I read these correctly, and am not getting fooled by a double negative…then there are these, at least, where I can agree with him! > > I bet a pickle there’s a double negative here, and he’s 100% wrong on the whole damn list. Yeah, those were the two that jumped out at me, too. I’m also in favor of the US not being ruled by the UN, but I’d guess that that actually translates to sending in the Marines to expel the UN stormtroopers from Texas Walmarts, or something. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23876 "2015-08-28T04:33:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So, he’d surround himself with competence, in much the same way that a hole surrounds itself with doughnut? > > We got that once already, with Shrubya. No thanks. > [@TonySinclair](#): > > FWIW, [here are the positions](http://ballotpedia.org/Sam_Clovis) held by the guy he just hired as his national campaign co-chair. That’s no doughnut, It’s a space Pasticciotti! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23877 "2015-08-28T04:35:54Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Yeah, those were the two that jumped out at me, too. I’m also in favor of the US not being ruled by the UN, but I’d guess that that actually translates to sending in the Marines to expel the UN stormtroopers from Texas Walmarts, or something. Oops! I missed that one; yeah, I’m good with national sovereignty, but keeping our treaty obligations to the U.N. We really can have both, and, as you suggest, Trump probably doesn’t believe that. Would he even appoint a U.N. ambassador? Or just try to kick them out and occupy that nice east side real estate? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23878 "2015-08-28T14:25:53Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > What’s not great about America right now, anyway? It produced the Tea Party, didn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23879 "2015-08-28T14:53:15Z")
And Kardashians. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23880 "2015-08-28T16:45:58Z")
I find your arguments… lacking. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/23881 "2015-08-28T19:18:46Z")
[Texas Gov. vetoes mental health bill after getting advice from Scientologists.](http://www.greenvillegazette.com/fb/texas-governor-vetoes-mental-health-bill-because-he-doesnt-believe-mental-illness-is-real-2/) Note that the headline of the article isn’t substantiated by the article, but it could be a conclusion drawn based on who is advising him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1193) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1195)