# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1240
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24782 "2015-10-09T04:33:05Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > No, you gave some very sensible suggestions — in that post. But in the earlier one, you didn’t say anything about sex education; you said it was a mistake to give teenagers the freedom to have kids out of wedlock. > > I’m happy to have helped you clarify your position. Sorry I responded to what you posted, rather than what you thought. I’m glad we’re basically in agreement and I guess I should just leave well enough alone. But nowhere did I say that it was a mistake to give teenagers the freedom to have kids out if wedlock. I said its a mistake for teenagers to have kids out if wedlock. Because it is. Profoundly so. Maybe not for all kids. But for many it will be, economically speaking, the biggest mistake of their lives. So as a society, we should acknowledge that and work to change that. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24783 "2015-10-09T06:58:03Z")
Carson still with shovel in hand. Ben Carson said Thursday that Adolf Hitler’s mass murder of Jews “would have been greatly diminished” if German citizens had not been disarmed by the Nazi regime. The murders of the homosexuals, Roma, mentally ill, would have continued though. Perhaps Ben could provide us with the numbers of Jews saved (diminished) that he divined from visions, dreams, hallucinations. If only teh Romans had guns, the Huns, Vandals, and Visigoths would have never sacked them. Until every straight, non-Muslim American is armed; we’re just asking for it. This turd just doesn’t get it. > **[Carson suggests that gun rights might have changed history for Jews in WWII](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/carson-suggests-that-gun-rights-might-have-prevented-the-holocaust/2015/10/08/99a82d9e-6df2-11e5-9bfe-e59f5e244f92_story.html)** > > The GOP presidential contender has become known for his controversial remarks on guns, gays and Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24784 "2015-10-09T14:08:25Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > If only teh Romans had guns, the Huns, Vandals, and Visigoths would have never sacked them. Actually, I can totally believe that. > [@](#): > > Ben Carson said Thursday that Adolf Hitler’s mass murder of Jews “would have been greatly diminished” if German citizens had not been disarmed by the Nazi regime. This, not so much. Does he think that the Jews in Germany were particularly heavily armed prior to Hitler coming to power? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24785 "2015-10-09T14:52:09Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > If there’s anything I’ve learned watching politics in this country it’s that you should never celebrate a defeat for an antagonist, because things can always get worse. I think it’s just a really remarkable time to be a politics junkie. Things are happening that haven’t happened in a long time, and it’s fun to have my expectations and “accepted wisdom” challenged. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24786 "2015-10-09T15:17:05Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > Actually, I can totally believe that. > This, not so much. Does he think that the Jews in Germany were particularly heavily armed prior to Hitler coming to power? I think he means that the good people of Germany would have stopped Hitler, instead of, ya know, being all in favor of what he was doing to the Jews. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24787 "2015-10-09T16:07:34Z")
[http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/09/3711011/this-document-reveals-why-the-house-of-representatives-is-in-complete-chaos/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/09/3711011/this-document-reveals-why-the-house-of-representatives-is-in-complete-chaos/) > [@](#): > > **This Document Reveals Why The House Of Representatives Is In Complete Chaos** > What happened? How did we get to this point? One document, produced by the House Freedom Caucus, holds all the answers. Framed as a “questionnaire” the document effectively makes it impossible for any candidate to both: 1) Get elected speaker, and 2) Not send the entire country (and maybe the world) over a cliff. > … > Yesterday, Politico published the House Freedom Caucus “[questionnaire](http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000150-49be-d501-ab5d-6dbf7cd70000)” which it described as pushing for “[House rule changes](http://www.politico.com/blogs/the-gavel/2015/10/house-freedom-caucus-rules-change-214591).” The document does do that. But it also does a lot more. It seeks substantive commitments from the next speaker that would effectively send the entire country into a tailspin. > > For example, the document seeks a commitment from the next speaker to tie any increase in the debt ceiling to cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. > … > The House Freedom Caucus wants the next speaker to commit to oppose any “omnibus” bill that would keep the government running. Rather, funding for each aspect of government could only be approved by separate bills. This would allow the Republicans to attempt to finance certain favored aspects of government (the military), while shuttering ones they view as largely unnecessary (education, health). To be appointed, a new speaker requires the support of 218 Republicans. There are 248 Republican House members. This means that a member can’t become speaker without the support of the Freedom Caucus. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24788 "2015-10-09T16:16:19Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > [http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/09/3711011/this-document-reveals-why-the-house-of-representatives-is-in-complete-chaos/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/09/3711011/this-document-reveals-why-the-house-of-representatives-is-in-complete-chaos/) > To be appointed, a new speaker requires the support of 218 Republicans. There are 248 Republican House members. This means that a member can’t become speaker without the support of the Freedom Caucus. Don’t worry Newt Gingrich can pull the party back together, [he’s willing to take the job](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/256433-gingrich-open-to-return-to-speakership) None of that affair baggage to get in the way! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24789 "2015-10-09T16:20:50Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > [http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/09/3711011/this-document-reveals-why-the-house-of-representatives-is-in-complete-chaos/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/09/3711011/this-document-reveals-why-the-house-of-representatives-is-in-complete-chaos/) > To be appointed, a new speaker requires the support of 218 Republicans. There are 248 Republican House members. This means that a member can’t become speaker without the support of the Freedom Caucus. Or a bipartisan coalition that says “fuck you” to the crazies. (I agree, it’s not going to happen) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24790 "2015-10-09T16:32:50Z")
Can House business proceed without a speaker? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24791 "2015-10-09T16:51:29Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I think it’s just a really remarkable time to be a politics junkie. Things are happening that haven’t happened in a long time, and it’s fun to have my expectations and “accepted wisdom” challenged. It’s a pretty sad time to be a citizen, though. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24792 "2015-10-09T16:52:58Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Don’t worry Newt Gingrich can pull the party back together, [he’s willing to take the job](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/256433-gingrich-open-to-return-to-speakership) None of that affair baggage to get in the way! He’s tanned, he’s rested, and he’s ready. And he’s done it before – Newt for Speaker in 2015! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24793 "2015-10-09T16:53:25Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Can House business proceed without a speaker? And if they have no speaker, why won’t they shut the fuck up? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24794 "2015-10-09T17:03:14Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Can House business proceed without a speaker? Pretty much no. If they can’t come up with a majority on one of the most basic house votes the chances they can pass a vote on anything is unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24795 "2015-10-09T17:54:21Z")
Apparently, Boehner is going to stay on until they choose a replacement, so they won’t be without a speaker at least for now. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24796 "2015-10-09T18:53:29Z")
Spotted this comment on FARK: [QUOTE=Bareefer Obonghit] McCarthy said he wanted a fresh face in there and that’s why he dropped out. I assume this means Boehner got a new coating of Minwax Colonial Maple 223 Finish applied. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24797 "2015-10-09T20:20:58Z")
As if Carson’s Popeye’s anecdote didn’t make him look stupid enough already, [Snopes is now reporting that he may have made the whole thing up.](http://m.snopes.com/2015/10/09/ben-carson-popeyes/) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24798 "2015-10-09T20:22:16Z")
Naw. Somebody who’s making up a story generally does a better job of it. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24799 "2015-10-09T21:59:29Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Naw. Somebody who’s making up a story generally does a better job of it. I dunno man, have you ever read L. Ron Hubbard ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24800 "2015-10-09T22:09:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > As if Carson’s Popeye’s anecdote didn’t make him look stupid enough already, [Snopes is now reporting that he may have made the whole thing up.](http://m.snopes.com/2015/10/09/ben-carson-popeyes/) Wait a minute, this is about fried chicken? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24801 "2015-10-09T23:25:11Z")
He is a vegetarian? Perhaps he saw “Popeye’s” and thought he would go in there to get a can of spinach? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1239) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1241)