# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24802 "2015-10-09T23:42:36Z")

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He’s a Seventh Day Adventist; one of the tenets of that faith is a commitment to the lifestyle, which includes vegetarianism.

Kinda weird that he was ever a chickentarian, as he appears to have been born into the faith. Maybe it was a sort of _rumspringa_-type thing for him.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24803 "2015-10-09T23:47:39Z")

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I doubt his story, but not because of his being a vegetarian in a Popeye’s. I’m a vegetarian, and I sometimes drop into a fast food place for a soda or something.

When Carson’s spokesperson said that Carson wasn’t a vegetarian at the time of the incident, I thought that was probably BS. It would have been a much simpler and more believable lie to say he just wanted a Coke.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24804 "2015-10-09T23:53:40Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I doubt his story, but not because of his being a vegetarian in a Popeye’s. I’m a vegetarian, and I sometimes drop into a fast food place for a soda or something.
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> When Carson’s spokesperson said that Carson wasn’t a vegetarian at the time of the incident, I thought that was probably BS. It would have been a much simpler and more believable lie to say he just wanted a Coke.

SDAs also don’t drink caffeinated beverages. 😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24805 "2015-10-09T23:59:04Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> He’s a Seventh Day Adventist; one of the tenets of that faith is a commitment to the lifestyle, which includes vegetarianism.
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> Kinda weird that he was ever a chickentarian, as he appears to have been born into the faith. Maybe it was a sort of _rumspringa_-type thing for him.

There’s also pacifism.  
[From Wiki.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson)

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> Carson attended Southwestern High School in Southwest Detroit where he excelled in JROTC, a program sponsored by the United States Armed Forces

Maybe he’s an apostate. 😃

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24806 "2015-10-10T00:30:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> As if Carson’s Popeye’s anecdote didn’t make him look stupid enough already, [Snopes is now reporting that he may have made the whole thing up.](http://m.snopes.com/2015/10/09/ben-carson-popeyes/)

From that Snopes link:

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> “I think police came later and chased him down the street,” he said, adding that he wasn’t sure if the gunman was arrested after the chase … Williams later clarified to The Daily Beast that it wasn’t the police who had chased the gunman, but “the patrons did, after he got the money.”

Popeye’s patrons chased an armed man? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24807 "2015-10-10T00:33:19Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> SDAs also don’t drink caffeinated beverages. 😃

Would you believe Sprite? Or do SDAs also abstain from lymon?

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24808 "2015-10-10T00:57:48Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> There’s also pacifism.  
> [From Wiki.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson)
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> Maybe he’s an apostate. 😃

Sort of like how Nixon was a Quaker?

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24809 "2015-10-10T01:01:02Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Popeye’s patrons chased an armed man? :dubious:

Well there you have it Carson’s charisma and leadership actually can convince the people around him to rush a gunman!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24810 "2015-10-10T01:07:25Z")

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“Get myself shot?”

“Or hang with Ben Carson?”

“Where are my running shoes?”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24811 "2015-10-10T01:24:22Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> “Get myself shot?”
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> “Or hang with Ben Carson?”
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> “Where are my running shoes?”

I read this post.

It looks like a haiku.

The syllables are wrong.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24812 "2015-10-10T02:04:50Z")

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Carson and his ilk really need to know what they’re talking about when they talk about Nazis and gun control. The Nazis actually loosened the gun control that were in place under Weimar Germany.

> **[Gun control in Germany](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Gun_regulation_of_the_Third_Reich)**
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> In Germany, access to guns is controlled by the German Weapons Act (German: Waffengesetz) which adheres to the European Firearms Directive, first enacted in 1972, and superseded by the law of 2003. This federal statute regulates the handling of firearms and ammunition as well as acquisition, storage, commerce and maintenance of firearms.
> In a debate on stricter gun control after a school shooting that resulted in 16 deaths, German weapons expert Holger Soschinka asserted that "Germany has one of...

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24813 "2015-10-10T02:49:02Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Carson and his ilk really need to know what they’re talking about when they talk about Nazis and gun control. The Nazis actually loosened the gun control that were in place under Weimar Germany.
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> [Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Gun_regulation_of_the_Third_Reich)

Since when has Republicans knowing what they are talking about been important?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24814 "2015-10-10T03:02:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Carson and his ilk really need to know what they’re talking about when they talk about Nazis and gun control. The Nazis actually loosened the gun control that were in place under Weimar Germany.
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> [Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Gun_regulation_of_the_Third_Reich)

Regardless of the status of gun ownership in Nazi Germany, the majority of Germans a) supported the Nazis wholeheartedly until at least '43 and b) didn’t give two shits about the plight of the Jews, let alone give enough of one shit to be willing to take up arms in their defence.  
Neither did an overwhelming majority of the people in Allied countries, for that matter.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24815 "2015-10-10T18:29:47Z")

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[Ben Carson says Mahmoud Abbas, Ali Khamenei, Vladimir Putin knew each other in 1968 Moscow](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/09/ben-carson/ben-carson-says-mahmoud-abbas-ali-khamenei-vladimi/)

When Putin was 16 and going to elementary school. Rated pants on fire.

Ben: When making up a whopper, you really should try to make it impossible to check on.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24816 "2015-10-10T20:06:24Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [Ben Carson says Mahmoud Abbas, Ali Khamenei, Vladimir Putin knew each other in 1968 Moscow](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/09/ben-carson/ben-carson-says-mahmoud-abbas-ali-khamenei-vladimi/)
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> When Putin was 16 and going to elementary school. Rated pants on fire.
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> Ben: When making up a whopper, you really should try to make it impossible to check on.

Should have thrown Xi Jinping and Kim Jung Un in for good measure. When you’re making shit up, go big or go home I say.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24817 "2015-10-10T20:53:50Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [Ben Carson says Mahmoud Abbas, Ali Khamenei, Vladimir Putin knew each other in 1968 Moscow](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/09/ben-carson/ben-carson-says-mahmoud-abbas-ali-khamenei-vladimi/)
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> When Putin was 16 and going to elementary school. Rated pants on fire.
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> Ben: When making up a whopper, you really should try to make it impossible to check on.

Doesn’t matter. Many will believe it. Mostly because they want to.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24818 "2015-10-10T22:20:33Z")

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I wonder how adaher will spin this as positive for Dr. Carson.

Can a medical school retroactively withdraw a degree award? I’ll bet UMich is just tickled to death with this fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24819 "2015-10-11T03:22:54Z")

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What is the punchline? Why on earth would Carson feel the need to say this?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24820 "2015-10-11T04:04:07Z")

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To show off his foreign intelligence chops, apparently.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24821 "2015-10-11T04:49:45Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> To show off his foreign intelligence chops, apparently.
> 
> :dubious:

Sadly, you’re exactly right. Most of the candidates know next to nothing about foreign policy, and in spite of what Donald Trump thinks, it can’t be learned in a few days, but they desperately want to look smart. Perry proved that glasses didn’t work, so they learn the name of a foreign leader or two, and then shoehorn it into every interview they have. Fiorina mentioned some Iranian general about a dozen times a day for a while. Carson evidently has worse advisors, and more laughable “facts.”

At least he didn’t say the three of them met at a Popeye’s.

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