# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24902 "2015-10-16T09:55:01Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So that makes \*\*three \*\*molesters of underage girls (Duggar, Nugent and Perry) who are close associates of Huckabee. This is getting to be a disturbing pattern…

Jesus did tell the little children “to come unto me”.

It’s Scripture, God says I have to do it.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24903 "2015-10-16T14:02:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Former Arizona GOP head - “[The best way to end the slaughter of young black men is to take guns away from blacks](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/14/arizona-gop-leader-take-guns-away-from-blacks-as-they-are-the-main-killers/).”

> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> But he’s OK with the slaughter of young WHITE men? :eek:

Of course not, but it is a well known fact that white people don’t kill each other.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24904 "2015-10-16T14:11:00Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> [Former Arizona GOP leader is all for the Second Amendment-- so long as blacks are disarmed.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/14/arizona-gop-leader-take-guns-away-from-blacks-as-they-are-the-main-killers/)

You link that like it’s a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24905 "2015-10-16T14:13:14Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Of course not, but it is a well known fact that white people don’t kill each other.

Oh, heaven, I forgot that white people are far too genteel to kill one another. We just wear guns for show, and to alarm deer on a seasonal basis.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24906 "2015-10-16T14:46:10Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I agree with Sanders, probably more than he himself does. And it’s not about race. There are rural blacks and urban whites. It’s about the fact that a firearm is a more consistent deterrent than a phone call to 911 when you live in the boonies, _or for that matter when you’re a black, Native American, or someone else the police don’t actually respond to._ Guns really aren’t seen as a menace in rural areas, because the risk of killing someone with a stray bullet is low. They’re a _blight_ in urban areas. This is hard to resolve.
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> I see that the pro-Clinton side have suddenly decided they’re purists on gun control if it lets them tar Bernie Sanders with urban white liberals. Well, fine. Maybe that will lose them delegates in rural states and minority populations who agree with Bernie Sanders on this issue, _because he’s right._
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> The funny thing is, Bernie’s originally from Brooklyn. He’s taken a moderate path on gun rights not out of any personal affinity for guns, but for pragmatic reasons of democratic politics. Howard Dean, also of Vermont, has a much more pro-NRA record (and that is exactly why the GOP feared him so much in 2008).
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> Honestly, the pro-gun-control position is a sign that the Democratic Party hasn’t been committed to leftism. How can you win the war to reform your society when you’ve unilaterally disarmed?

I think, rather, that in rural environs guns are much more of a tool than an object of protection. You need them to kill off critters that kill your chickens, scare away crows, etc. They have a completely different purpose than urban settings where they’re purely for offensive/defensive capability.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24907 "2015-10-16T14:58:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Jesus did tell the little children “to come unto me”.
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> It’s Scripture, God says I have to do it.
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> :eek:

That is unconscionable.

Well done, you magnificent bastard.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24908 "2015-10-16T15:36:56Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> But he’s OK with the slaughter of young WHITE men? :eek:

Hmm. Just how “young” are we talking, here?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24909 "2015-10-16T20:32:02Z")

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[Puerto Rico Republican Senator caught posting nude photos on Grindr.](http://deadstate.org/anti-gay-gop-senator-caught-posting-photos-on-the-gay-hook-up-site-grindr/)

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24910 "2015-10-16T20:36:41Z")

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The link didn’t work for me, but that’s hardly a specifically Republican thing.

I have taken to calling the act of posting nude selfies by a politician, “Pulling a Wiener.”

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24911 "2015-10-16T20:38:15Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> The link didn’t work for me, but that’s hardly a specifically Republican thing.
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> I have taken to calling the act of posting nude selfies by a politician, “Pulling a Wiener.”

It’s more Republican when the politician is very anti-gay but is caught posting the nude pics to a gay hookup site.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24912 "2015-10-16T20:50:31Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> The link didn’t work for me, but that’s hardly a specifically Republican thing.

From the link:

> [@](#):
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> Arango has opposed adoption rights for gay people and same-sex marriage, voting for Resolution 99, a proposal that would block any attempt to permit same-sex marriages in Puerto Rico.

> [@](#):
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> “You know I’ve been losing weight. As I shed that weight, I’ve been taking pictures. I don’t remember taking this particular picture but I’m not gonna say I didn’t take it. I’d tell you if I remembered taking the picture, but I don’t.”
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> That was Puerto Rico’s GOP senator Roberto Arango’s excuse as to why images of his naked ass showed up on the gay hook-up app, Grindr.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24913 "2015-10-16T20:51:57Z")

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What does a “Puerto Rican senator” mean? Is it like a state-senate-like body for the commonwealth?

(bothers to look it up)

Yep.

But Arango is not a Republican, just a yay-Bush-43! anti-gay legislator who likes to post naked pictures of himself on all fours from behind on a gay hookup site.

Probably for ironic purposes, because otherwise it makes no sense, a straight conservative anti-gay legislator looking for man lovin’.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24914 "2015-10-16T23:58:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Hmm. Just how “young” are we talking, here?

[Toddlers on up](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/), I reckon.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24915 "2015-10-17T03:42:17Z")

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[Rand Paul thinks a Bernie Sanders Presidency will lead to mass genocides.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rand-paul-warns-sanders-presidency-could-lead-mass-genocide)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24916 "2015-10-17T03:54:30Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Rand Paul thinks a Bernie Sanders Presidency will lead to mass genocides.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rand-paul-warns-sanders-presidency-could-lead-mass-genocide)

I told many Republicans on the SDMB and elsewhere that Trump was going to make running to “middle” in the general election impossible. Because of Trump the important troglodyte extreme right voter has to be attracted at all costs and in the open by all the Republican candidates that are being left behind.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24917 "2015-10-17T04:32:07Z")

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Well, if you’re going to call yourself a socialist you get to own the history of the word. Sanders should call himself a “social democrat”, but he’s obviously not smart enough to even know what he’s campaigning on. He also seems unaware that the nations he seeks to emulate are nothing like his campaign platform.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24918 "2015-10-17T04:36:44Z")

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Abe Lincoln once asked, “How many legs does a dog have if you call its tail a leg?” The answer is FOUR, because, of course, _calling_ a tail a leg doesn’t _make_ it one.

This is true even if the tail is doing the calling. The Nazis calling themselves Socialists didn’t make them Socialists, the North Koreans calling themselves Democratic Socialists doesn’t make them Democratic Socialists. Every right wing loon calling Democrats Socialists or Communists on every comments section on every article on the internet, including articles about Bill Cosby, doesn’t make Democrats Socialists or Communists.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24919 "2015-10-17T05:02:55Z")

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The whole Republican strategy was well thought out. Gerrymander districts carefully, so that you have many districts that will very probably vote ®, but only just. This allows cramming as many Dem votes into as few districts as possible. You could have, say, four districts with roughly equal numbers of Dems and Reps, but carve it up right, you get one district with a huge Dem majority and three that are just barely, but reliably, ®.

Sound thinking, but it relies on solidarity. If ten percent of Republican voters go rogue, the whole thing burns up, falls over and sinks into the swamp, blub, blub, glerp…

So its not that they decided to go whole hog for the knuckle-walking vote, its that they have no choice but to depend that the “normal” Republicans will stick to them and _then_ they gave to get the Batshit Caucus on board as well. And pretty much _all_ of them! The plan has no more “wiggle room” than an anaconda’s latest meal.

Its not that they expect the batshit to sweep them to victory, its that they can’t get into field goal range without them.

“…and their lining up for the field goal, this will be about an eighty yard attempt…”

“Trent, you know, if they get this, it will set all kinds of records! In 1986, the Jets…”

“They’re lined up, the count…and the center refuses to hike the ball. Demanding a new quarterback who will call for a “Hail Mary” pass…”

“Trent, Fredo, in _The Godfather_, used a Hail Mary prayer to catch fish…”

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24920 "2015-10-17T05:08:30Z")

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I agree with the definition of reality stated above, but perception isn’t reality and it’s political fair game to capitalize on the perception of labels candidates themselves choose.

It should be noted that Chris Matthews also compared Sanders to Mao:

> **[Thom Hartmann - News & info from the #1 progressive radio show | News....](https://www.thomhartmann.com/)**
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> Thom Hartmann is the #1 progressive radio talk show host in the US and a New York Times bestselling author, including 4 Project Censored awards, of 21 books.

Simple solution: drop the label. The label is tainted.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/24921 "2015-10-17T05:56:34Z")

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Why, if he just called it Red White And Blue All American Scrumptious, we’d have single payer next year!

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