# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1257
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25122 "2015-10-27T17:48:13Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The US started it. I mean, not the actual worldwide conflict, but the Japs were provoked into attacking Pearl Harbor. And America First fought Frankie all the way, opposing his provocative action. > > FDR placed an embargo on oil exports to Japan. That put a major crimp in their adventurism efforts and, in terms of international relations, was generally viewed as a hostile action. The US government was imposing restrictions on private enterprise which, given their way, almost certainly would have kept on selling lots of oil to the Japs. Because the market is amoral. Hence, the US was not literally forced into WWII, it chose to become involved. > > And really, the America First thing was pretty evil. If they had had no traction, if the US had become involved a year or two earlier, many, many lives would probably not have been lost. On all sides. Lend Lease and other cooperation with Great Britain was far more provocative than oil embargoes, yet even Hitler was smart enough not to attack. And many American Firsters were far more supportive of the Germans than the Japanese. But you are right about businesses. Was it Lenin or Stalin who said that the West would sell the Communists the rope with which the capitalists would be hung? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25123 "2015-10-27T19:10:45Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > History aside, the term “Japs” is a slur in the US. > > Not trying to derail the thread, BTW, just a gentle reminder. No, I know that. I am not even aware of “Japs” or “Nips” occurng in modern usage. I was kind of invoking the ambience of the era, as in the “Japs” were the enemy at the time. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25124 "2015-10-27T19:42:34Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > …But you are right about businesses. Was it Lenin or Stalin who said that the West would sell the Communists the rope with which the capitalists would be hung? Lenin. And “hanged”. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25125 "2015-10-27T22:11:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Lenin. And “hanged”. Did he say it in English? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25126 "2015-10-27T22:41:20Z")
nm. Friggin phone … ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25127 "2015-10-27T22:42:33Z")
It was Stalin that was hung. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25128 "2015-10-27T23:26:35Z")
Wikiquote claims there is no evidence that vlad ever actually said that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25129 "2015-10-27T23:28:05Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > It was Stalin that was hung. I would like to know how you know this. On second thought, no, tmi, tmi. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25130 "2015-10-27T23:32:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Wikiquote claims there is no evidence that vlad ever actually said that. Nobody ever called him Vlad the Suspender. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25131 "2015-10-28T01:19:39Z")
> [@Vlad](#): > > Aye, ‘tis true they never called me “Vlad the Suspender.” > But ya’ fuck _one_ goat… … ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25132 "2015-10-28T01:34:48Z")
You get _caught_ fucking one goat… ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25133 "2015-10-28T06:29:42Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Donald Trump says Muslim women wear veils [because they don’t have to put on makeup.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-on-burqas-you-dont-have-to-put-on-make-up/) It’s been at least twenty-five years since I’ve worn any makeup, and I’ve never felt the need to wear a burqa. Trump’s view of women seems to be pretty damn limited. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25134 "2015-10-28T06:39:45Z")
His wife puts on full makeup if she has to get up to go pee. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25135 "2015-10-28T12:02:22Z")
I’m sure she has people for that. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25136 "2015-10-28T12:59:55Z")
> [@eulalia](#): > > It’s been at least twenty-five years since I’ve worn any makeup, and I’ve never felt the need to wear a burqa. Trump’s view of women seems to be pretty damn limited. So’s the rest of him. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25137 "2015-10-28T14:20:27Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Lindsey Graham can’t figure out how he’s losing in the polls: > > [Lindsey Graham on GOP field: ‘How am I losing to these people?’](https://www.yahoo.com/politics/lindsey-graham-on-gop-field-how-am-i-losing-to-150953390.html) > > In fairness, that’s kind of a legitimate question. Only for someone who is ignorant or in deep denial about the GOP’s decades-long courting of bigots, ignoramuses, and lunatics. Since the former would require him to have been living on Mars (and, frankly, he couldn’t science his way out of a wet paper bag), I’ll go with the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25138 "2015-10-28T14:29:03Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > See, that is where you fail. The trick is to borrow $1M from TRUMP’s dad! > > I used to like NDT and Bill Nye and Carl Sagan and Mr. Wizard for making science seem cool, but it is so much more magical when you look at science through Conservative Crazy Eyes! Suddenly, there is \*literally \*nothing science can’t do! 😃 Awww, you found out [the secret](http://www.xkcd.com/298/)! ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25139 "2015-10-28T16:16:57Z")
I’ve paraphrased the Lenin quote as follows: “When they want to hang a worker, they’ll hire other workers to build the scaffold.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25140 "2015-10-28T16:49:41Z")
“You can always hire half the poor to kill the other half” Variously attributed. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25141 "2015-10-28T19:05:18Z")
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