# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25482 "2015-11-15T22:28:28Z")

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[Ben Carson says he would put together a coalition of nations to fight ISIS, can’t name any other countries that would be involved in the coalition.](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25483 "2015-11-15T22:35:32Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Ben Carson says he would put together a coalition of nations to fight ISIS, can’t name any other countries that would be involved in the coalition.](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his)

He should have gone full Palin: “All of 'em.”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25484 "2015-11-15T22:45:52Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Ben Carson says he would put together a coalition of nations to fight ISIS, can’t name any other countries that would be involved in the coalition.](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his)

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> He should have gone full Palin: “All of 'em.”

“Plus Antarctica.”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25485 "2015-11-15T22:46:03Z")

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President Carson, confronted with a fearsome enemy, calls in a close advisor and tells him to call all our allies. The advisor asks for clarification. Carson responds: “EVERYONE!”  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/fTTBLia.gif?noredirect) ](https://i.imgur.com/fTTBLia.gif?noredirect)

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25486 "2015-11-16T00:46:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Ben Carson says he would put together a coalition of nations to fight ISIS, can’t name any other countries that would be involved in the coalition.](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his)

Isn’t there \*already \*a coalition of nations fighting ISIS? Or did I miss something?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25487 "2015-11-16T02:37:39Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> He should have gone full Palin: “All of 'em.”

[Everybody knows you never go full Palin](https://youtu.be/X6WHBO_Qc-Q?t=1m28s).

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25488 "2015-11-16T02:38:38Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Isn’t there \*already \*a coalition of nations fighting ISIS? Or did I miss something?

Pfft! They’re not fighting. They’re just bombing! /wingnut

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25489 "2015-11-16T03:20:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Ben Carson says he would put together a coalition of nations to fight ISIS, can’t name any other countries that would be involved in the coalition.](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his)

Has Chris Wallace turned into a FNCINO ? (FauxNews Correspondent In Name Only?) I thought it was the Lame Stream Media that liked to ask Real American™ candidates the Gotcha questions.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25490 "2015-11-16T14:52:10Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Isn’t there \*already \*a coalition of nations fighting ISIS? Or did I miss something?

Multiple caveats: I know this is not the thread for this, and I know this is a stupid idea that would only appeal to the most brain-dead of Republicans. But I wonder if the best response to the events in Paris is to just say: That’s enough, this shit ends now, and launch a full NATO boots on the ground invasion of Syria. Kick everyone’s ass and take everyone’s names.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25491 "2015-11-16T15:04:58Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Multiple caveats: I know this is not the thread for this, and I know this is a stupid idea that would only appeal to the most brain-dead of Republicans. But I wonder if the best response to the events in Paris is to just say: That’s enough, this shit ends now, and launch a full NATO boots on the ground invasion of Syria. Kick everyone’s ass and take everyone’s names.

Just for the sake of clarity: in this scenario, are we with the Russians or agin 'em?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25492 "2015-11-16T15:05:57Z")

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How many innocents do we have to kill to properly avenge the deaths of innocents?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25493 "2015-11-16T15:08:52Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Multiple caveats: I know this is not the thread for this, and I know this is a stupid idea that would only appeal to the most brain-dead of Republicans. But I wonder if the best response to the events in Paris is to just say: That’s enough, this shit ends now, and launch a full NATO boots on the ground invasion of Syria. Kick everyone’s ass and take everyone’s names.

But, how do we do that without getting into an expensive and intractable quagmire with ethnic cleansing, insurgency and refugees, as in Iraq?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25494 "2015-11-16T15:08:55Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> How many innocents do we have to kill to properly avenge the deaths of innocents?

Oh, get out of here with your hippie liberal rationality. I’m in raging id mode.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25495 "2015-11-16T15:10:10Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Just for the sake of clarity: in this scenario, are we with the Russians or agin 'em?

Agin’ 'em, I suppose, if the Russians are supporting Assad.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25496 "2015-11-16T15:13:31Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> But, how do we do that without getting into an expensive and intractable quagmire with ethnic cleansing, insurgency and refugees, as in Iraq?

Colonialism. You didn’t have this stuff going on when the British ran things.

Note: I do not really endorse this plan. Just taking this awful thought experiment to its ridiculous conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25497 "2015-11-16T15:16:14Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Colonialism. You didn’t have this stuff going on when the British ran things.

That’s only because plane tickets weren’t available, and there was no reason for the Muslim world to be mad at most of the Western world in those days. They were certainly happily killing each other, and at much greater rates than today.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25498 "2015-11-16T15:54:12Z")

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[Terrorism existed in the colonial period.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terrorism#Emergence_of_modern_terrorism)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25499 "2015-11-16T16:22:08Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> President Carson, confronted with a fearsome enemy

…tells them “You want to bomb that other country over there”.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25500 "2015-11-16T16:27:36Z")

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Better than having him stab them, he’s not very good at the whole “stabby” thing.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25501 "2015-11-16T16:53:52Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> How many innocents do we have to kill to properly avenge the deaths of innocents?

Ted Cruz’s [response to the Paris attacks:](http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/13/3722243/in-response-to-paris-ted-cruz-calls-for-airstrikes-with-more-tolerance-for-civilian-casualties/)

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> We must immediately recognize that our enemy is not ‘violent extremism.’ It is the radical Islamism that has declared jihad against the west. It will not be appeased by outreach or declarations of tolerance. It will not be deterred by targeted airstrikes with zero tolerance for civilian casualties, when the terrorists have such utter disregard for innocent life.

Unfortunately, even targeted airstrikes kill some of the innocent; “zero tolerance” is \*not \*the current policy. But Cruz apparently wants carpet bombing.

_Their_ innocents are not like ours!

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