# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1276
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25502 "2015-11-16T16:58:04Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Nah, Donald is peddling fear and hatred of others big time, and the Paris attacks are a high hard one, right into his wheelhouse. He’ll knock it out of the park. Coulter’s almost never right about anything, but she might have hit the nail on the wig here. If this attack were just a couple of months before the November 2016 election, maybe. But Americans have real fucking short attention spans. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25503 "2015-11-16T17:22:46Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > He should have gone full Palin: “All of 'em.” [Never go full Palin.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25504 "2015-11-16T17:32:49Z")
GOP governors in Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, and Michigan are proudly rejecting the Syrian refugees – the people fleeing hundreds of miles to get away from ISIS – as a terrorism threat. [Compassionate conservatism at work.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/world/paris-attacks-syrian-refugees-backlash/index.html):rolleyes: A tip: when ISIS clearly wants you to do something – ISIS threatened/claimed that it would infiltrate the refugees, presumably to elicit precisely such an over-reaction in the European nations – you should seriously consider not giving them what they want. Then again, when Pavlov rings the bell, the dog must salivate. :rolleyes: After reading the linked article, I have a special tip of the hypocrisy hat to Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Rep. Peter King (R-NY). For Rubio, it seems that Christian refugees from Cuba good, Muslim refugees from Syria bad. Rhetorical question to Rubio: how were the post-Castro Cuban emigres vetted for Communist ties? Were they at all? The INS or FBI couldn’t exactly ask the Cuban police for records. :smack: For King, this is just the latest chapter in his highly selective anti-terrorism stance. Pre-9/11, he had no problem with fund-raising for the IRA among Irish-Americans. Post-9/11, he seems to suspect almost every Muslim organization in the States of supporting terrorism. Again, “Christians good, Muslims bad” seems a fair characterization. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25505 "2015-11-16T17:44:12Z")
Well, Rubio’s parents weren’t really refugees. They left before Castro came to power. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25506 "2015-11-16T19:08:13Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Ted Cruz’s [response to the Paris attacks:](http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/13/3722243/in-response-to-paris-ted-cruz-calls-for-airstrikes-with-more-tolerance-for-civilian-casualties/) > > Unfortunately, even targeted airstrikes kill some of the innocent; “zero tolerance” is \*not \*the current policy. But Cruz apparently wants carpet bombing. Genius! Take out their ability to make and sell carpets, and a major source of funding dries up. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25507 "2015-11-16T19:14:54Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Genius! Take out their ability to make and sell carpets, and a major source of funding dries up. Not to mention crippling their air force. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25508 "2015-11-16T19:33:45Z")
The Republican governors who claim that they are not going to allow refugees into their states don’t seem to understand that governors don’t control foreign and immigration policy. [Donald Trump wants to shut down mosques.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/16/3722454/trump-morning-joe-mosques/) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25509 "2015-11-16T19:43:36Z")
[Tucker Carlson says that the attacks on Paris are Obama’s fault because he doesn’t care about the Constitution.](http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/11/15/nitwit-manchild-tucker-carlson-blames-obama-for-paris-massac/) ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25510 "2015-11-16T20:29:17Z")
> **[Santorum: 'People are dying because this President refuses to face the truth'...](https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/14/politics/rick-santorum-barack-obama-isis-paris-attacks/index.html)** > > Rick Santorum hammered Barack Obama's foreign policy on Saturday, blaming the President for the terror attacks in Paris that killed more than 120 people. The Paris attack was Obama’s fault ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25511 "2015-11-16T21:29:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Tucker Carlson says that the attacks on Paris are Obama’s fault because he doesn’t care about the Constitution.](http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/11/15/nitwit-manchild-tucker-carlson-blames-obama-for-paris-massac/) [Quote=from the article] Carlson and his guest argued that America does not do a good enough job of integrating immigrants into the ideas of American patriotism and American Constitutionalism. [/Quote] It’s true. We do a horrible job of integrating immigrants to France into the ideas of American patriotism and Constitutionalism. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25512 "2015-11-16T21:37:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Republican governors who claim that they are not going to allow refugees into their states don’t seem to understand that governors don’t control foreign and immigration policy. Yep. Once someone’s admitted to the United States by the Feds, there’s no authority for a State to keep them out. Unlike the old Soviet Union, we don’t have policed internal borders. :smack: I want to add a special fuck you! & not in my name! to Governor Rauner of Illinois for joining the dishonor roll of governors. [Chicago Tribune article, which also calls out the governors’ lack of authority.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-bruce-rauner-illinois-syrian-refugees-suspended-met-1117-20151116-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![KaleMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@KaleMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KaleMan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25513 "2015-11-16T22:00:15Z")
Kill The Batman! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25514 "2015-11-16T22:06:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Republican governors who claim that they are not going to allow refugees into their states don’t seem to understand that governors don’t control foreign and immigration policy. > > [Donald Trump wants to shut down mosques.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/16/3722454/trump-morning-joe-mosques/) They know that, they just want to get their opposition on the record so that when the inevitable happens, only one man is responsible. Of course, he’ll say, “I didn’t know, must have been a failure somewhere down the line, I didn’t personally vet these people.” ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25515 "2015-11-16T22:18:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > They know that, they just want to get their opposition on the record so that when the inevitable happens, only one man is responsible. The inevitable lynching of Muslims in red states? Is that what you were predicting? Because that is much more likely as Republicans fan the flames of bigotry and hatred. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25516 "2015-11-16T22:23:32Z")
I guarantee you, and I’d stake money on it, that a terror attack is more likely than a single lynching, and I’d give you 10-1 odds on it. We know there will be terrorists among the refugees. So basically we’re willing to sell some American lives for political correctness. Fine. Own it then. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25517 "2015-11-16T22:33:59Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > Yep. Once someone’s admitted to the United States by the Feds, there’s no authority for a State to keep them out. Unlike the old Soviet Union, we don’t have policed internal borders. :smack: > > I want to add a special fuck you! & not in my name! to Governor Rauner of Illinois for joining the dishonor roll of governors. [Chicago Tribune article, which also calls out the governors’ lack of authority.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-bruce-rauner-illinois-syrian-refugees-suspended-met-1117-20151116-story.html) Maybe we’re going to be treated to the sight of ‘heroic’ governors blocking the path of immigrant buses at the state borders, kind of like George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. And we know how well that turned out. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25518 "2015-11-16T22:36:03Z")
Nope. Just getting into position to say they told us so. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25519 "2015-11-16T22:38:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I guarantee you, and I’d stake money on it, that a terror attack is more likely than a single lynching, and I’d give you 10-1 odds on it. > > We know there will be terrorists among the refugees. So basically we’re willing to sell some American lives for political correctness. Fine. Own it then. It’ll be interesting to see, when the Paris terrorists are identified, how long they’d been in France, and whether or not any were recent refugees. At least one of them appears to have been a Belgian citizen. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25520 "2015-11-16T22:39:28Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I guarantee you, and I’d stake money on it, that a terror attack is more likely than a single lynching, and I’d give you 10-1 odds on it. > > We know there will be terrorists among the refugees. So basically we’re willing to sell some American lives for political correctness. Fine. Own it then. Do you think that ISIS would need to embed terrorists in refugees to get them into the country? There are lot faster ways to get people in (see [here](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/alabama_gov_robert_bentley_rejects_refugees_playing_into_isis_s_hands.html)for the hoops Syrian refugees must jump through). In the meantime, we have huge unguarded borders (south and north). If a terrorist is really determined to kill a bunch of Americans, there really is jack-shit we can do about it. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25521 "2015-11-16T22:43:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Nope. Just getting into position to say they told us so. So they know perfectly well they can’t do what they are promising, and they are fully aware that all they are doing is callously using the deaths of hundreds of people only days after the attack to try to personally gain political ground? And these are the politicians that you admire and are rooting for? Wow, pretty reprehensible stuff right there. I think they are putting themselves in position to look like sociopathic idiots who don’t understand the constitution or the limits of their own power but ymmv. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1275) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1277)