# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1288
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25742 "2015-11-23T21:17:42Z")
[Trump’s false racist statistics apparently come from a neo-Nazi Hitler lover.](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/that-racist-trump-tweet-about-blacks-killing-whites-isnt-just-false-its-neo-nazi-propaganda/) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25743 "2015-11-23T21:29:56Z")
Breitbart says that Mockingjay Part 2 (which is number one at the box office this weekend) tanked because Jennifer Lawrence bad mouthed Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25744 "2015-11-23T21:48:41Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Trump’s false racist statistics apparently come from a neo-Nazi Hitler lover.](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/that-racist-trump-tweet-about-blacks-killing-whites-isnt-just-false-its-neo-nazi-propaganda/) I mentioned before that Trump is either an incompetent at choosing properly who should he get in bed with, or that he is a racist neo fascist. I advised the conservatives to choose their potion in the past, but it is clear that both choices are poisoned anyhow. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25745 "2015-11-23T22:15:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > “Plus Antarctica.” And Atlantis. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25746 "2015-11-23T22:25:20Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > And Atlantis. . . . I can never remember . . . Who do we need to approach about that – Aqua-Man, Namor the Sub-Mariner, or Kull? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25747 "2015-11-23T22:26:22Z")
^ Donovan. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25748 "2015-11-23T22:30:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Donald Trump yells “Get him out of here!” to a crowd at his rally in Birmingham (“him” being a Black Lives Matter protester), and, as you do, the crowd jumped on the protester and beat him.](http://www.occupydemocrats.com/trumps-rally-turns-to-riot-as-supporters-viciously-beat-black-protester/) And [the RW blames the liberal media](http://www.salon.com/2015/11/23/the_rights_insane_new_donald_trump_lie_yeah_now_the_liberal_media_beat_up_the_black_lives_matter_protester/). > [@](#): > > But less that 24 hours after the incident happened, the right-wing media was already in full don’t-believe-your-lying-eyes mode. As Callum Borchers at the Washington Post reports, multiple right wing “news” sites are already spinning conspiracy theories about how that wicked liberal media is lying to you about what happened. According to Breitbart, the mob of people surrounding this man are, at best, acting in self-defense. (Because we’re meant to believe that people who are afraid of Syrian orphans run towards perceived danger as an act of self-defense.) > > At Rise News, the claim is, “Many in the crowd told the man to calm down and told him that all lives mattered.” While it is technically true that “all lives matter” was stated, if you watch the video, it’s clear that it’s not exactly being used to soothe anyone, but is something that some white dude is screaming over and over and over at Southall, clearly to push the notion that Black Lives Matter is somehow opposed to white people. > > And so on and so forth: As Borchers lays out, the narrative starts with the assumption that it’s preposterous to believe there might be a few racists lurking in a crowd of anti-immigration fanatics living in the same city that, 50 years ago, was setting police dogs on crowds of civil rights protesters. Once you buy that premise, it’s really not much a leap to start denying that what you are seeing—a bunch of white people swarming this BLM protester—is somehow “self-defense” or anything but what it clearly is. > > This story goes beyond your typical case of partisans arguing about who started what, and really crosses the line into a nascent conspiracy theory. To believe the right-wing spin on events, you have to not only disregard the only reasonable interpretation of the video footage, but the testimony of at least three separate journalists. That’s not just paranoid, but melting-steel-beams territory. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25749 "2015-11-23T23:19:19Z")
FOX contributor says [she dropped out of the Girl Scouts because they took her to hear Jimmy Carter speak](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/fox-news-contributor-girl-scout-trip-to-see-jimmy-carter-is-child-abuse/), "And I was, like, this man is responsible for runaway inflation in this country.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25750 "2015-11-23T23:30:17Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > FOX contributor says [she dropped out of the Girl Scouts because they took her to hear Jimmy Carter speak](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/fox-news-contributor-girl-scout-trip-to-see-jimmy-carter-is-child-abuse/), "And I was, like, this man is responsible for runaway inflation in this country.” :mad: No, Scout, it was because **you** bitches couldn’t hold the line on cookie prices! You figured out you could sell them by cute-little-girl appeal alone, and you got greedy, and then everything spun out of control! Yeah, the oil crisis made it worse, but you started it! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25751 "2015-11-23T23:43:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > FOX contributor says [she dropped out of the Girl Scouts because they took her to hear Jimmy Carter speak](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/fox-news-contributor-girl-scout-trip-to-see-jimmy-carter-is-child-abuse/), "And I was, like, this man is responsible for runaway inflation in this country.” History’s greatest monster! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25752 "2015-11-24T01:02:22Z")
Most terriblest President ever, total failure and everybody knows it. Don’t even have to say why, because everybody already knows he was terrible. So, why bother, when everybody knows? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25753 "2015-11-24T01:26:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > FOX contributor says [she dropped out of the Girl Scouts because they took her to hear Jimmy Carter speak](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/fox-news-contributor-girl-scout-trip-to-see-jimmy-carter-is-child-abuse/), "And I was, like, this man is responsible for runaway inflation in this country.” She doesn’t realize that runaway inflation was there before Carter? That it was actually a campaign issue for both sides? The incumbent President Gerald Ford had the WIN buttons ([Whip Inflation Now!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whip_inflation_now))? Do Republicans have memory problems? ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25754 "2015-11-24T04:34:06Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Do Republicans have memory problems? Yes. Also cognitive impairment. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25755 "2015-11-24T05:09:42Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Do Republicans have memory problems? Not Trump. He has “the world’s greatest memory. It’s one thing everyone agrees on.” Cite: Donald Trump. ( [Amid Latest Controversy, Trump Claims 'World's Greatest Memory'](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amid-latest-controversy-trump-claims-worlds-greatest-memory-n468621)) He said this in defense of his (ahem) disputed claim that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated on 9/11. He also said that he would reintroduce waterboarding “and more” against ISIS because “only a stupid person would say it doesn’t work” and “even if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they’re doing.” Ladies and gentlemen, the next Republican nominee for President of the United fucking States. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25756 "2015-11-24T05:30:46Z")
In your link, he is speaking, and clearly says an aide gave him a news report from the _Washington Post_, dated September 18th that lays out a rather spare narrative about tail-gating parties on rooftops in celebration. Should be easy enough to check. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25757 "2015-11-24T07:18:38Z")
How do you tailgate on a rooftop? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25758 "2015-11-24T07:29:15Z")
WaPo sez baloney ( [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/) ) and links to the report in question: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/18/northern-new-jersey-draws-probers-eyes/40f82ea4-e015-4d6e-a87e-93aa433fafdc/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/18/northern-new-jersey-draws-probers-eyes/40f82ea4-e015-4d6e-a87e-93aa433fafdc/) , which I will excerpt part of here: > [@](#): > > In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river. > > Over the weekend, authorities raided a small apartment building in Jersey City to search an apartment rented by two men who were detained in Texas on Wednesday, on possible immigration violations. Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, 47, and Ayub Ali Khan, 51, both from India, were taken into custody Wednesday on an Amtrak train in Texas, carrying $5,000 in cash, hair dye and box cutter knives – weapons said to have been used by the hijackers. During the raids in Jersey City, authorities detained a third man, Abdoul Salam Achou, 37, whose visa application allegedly expired on Sept. 1. > > Investigators also detained three men in Elizabeth, N.J., who were carrying a large amount of cash and a one-way ticket to Syria. The three men, Ahmad Kilfat, 45, Mohammad Mahmoud Al Raqqad, 37, and Nicholas Makrakis, 27, were in a red Pontiac that matched an FBI description of a vehicle connected with the attacks. In the week after the attacks, NJ police “investigated” what seems to have been a handful of suspects, not all Arab, some Desi, for various crimes not all related to the attacks. It doesn’t sound like the rooftop parties (and who holds a tailgate party on a rooftop?) were ever proven to have happened. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25759 "2015-11-24T15:59:07Z")
> [@](#): > > How do you tailgate on a rooftop? Carefully. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25760 "2015-11-24T17:20:38Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Ladies and gentlemen, the next Republican nominee for President of the United fucking States. Fortunately, probably not as [polling seer Nate Silver says](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dear-media-stop-freaking-out-about-donald-trumps-polls/): > [@](#): > > Right now, he has [25 to 30 percent](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html) of the vote in polls among the [roughly 25 percent](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification) of Americans who identify as Republican. (That’s something like 6 to 8 percent of the electorate overall, or about the same share of people who [think the Apollo moon landings were faked](http://www.gallup.com/poll/1993/did-men-really-land-moon.aspx).) As the rest of the field consolidates around him, Trump will need to gain additional support to win the nomination. That [might not be easy](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-six-stages-of-doom/), since some Trump actions that appeal to a faction of the Republican electorate may [alienate the rest of it](http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/donald-trump-is-winning-the-polls-and-losing-the-nomination/). Trump’s favorability ratings are [middling among Republicans](http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/republicans-dont-like-donald-trump-as-much-as-they-used-to/) (and [awful](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating) among the broader electorate). > > Trump will also have to get that 25 or 30 percent to go to the polls. For now, most surveys cover Republican-leaning adults or registered voters, rather than likely voters. Combine that with the [poor response rates](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/21/the-challenges-of-polling-when-fewer-people-are-available-to-be-polled/) to polls and the fact that an increasing number of polls use nontraditional sampling methods, and it’s not clear how much overlap there is between the people included in these surveys and the relatively small share of Republicans who will turn up to vote in primaries and caucuses. > > But there’s another, more fundamental problem. That 25 or 30 percent of the vote isn’t really Donald Trump’s for the keeping. In fact, it doesn’t belong to any candidate. If past nomination races are any guide, the vast majority of eventual Republican voters haven’t made up their minds yet. Silver concludes, “So, could Trump win? We confront two stubborn facts: first, that nobody remotely like Trump has won a major-party nomination in the modern era.[4](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dear-media-stop-freaking-out-about-donald-trumps-polls/#fn-4) And second, as is always a problem in analysis of presidential campaigns, we don’t have all that many data points, so unprecedented events can occur with some regularity. For my money, that adds up to Trump’s chances being higher than 0 but (considerably) less than 20 percent. Your mileage may vary. But you probably shouldn’t rely solely on the polls to make your case; it’s still too soon for that.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25761 "2015-11-24T20:11:05Z")
[Kevin Swanson, the “kill all the gays” buddy of Jindal, Cruz and Huckabee, says the people killed in the concert hall in Paris deserved it because they were devil worshippers.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/23/pastor-who-hosted-republicans-paris-victims-were-devil-worshippers.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1287) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1289)