# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1292
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25822 "2015-11-29T03:46:30Z")
[Sarah Plain condemns the use of a weapon (without naming that weapon) in the Colorado Springs killings.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/28/sarah-palin-disgustingly-makes-sure-we-dont-blame-guns-in-her-prayers-for-colorado/) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25823 "2015-11-29T06:46:54Z")
[Donald Trump says that he will be meeting with a group of 100 African American pastors on Monday, who will be endorsing his campaign for Presidency. Those pastors say, “uh, not so much”](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/28/those-100-black-pastors-endorsing-donald-trump-on-monday-well-theyre-not-video/) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25824 "2015-11-29T07:56:49Z")
Hey, he got one! You guys with your “not so much” snark, everybody knows that means squadoosh, zero, zip, zilch, nada damn one! But he does have one, says so right there in your cite! This is the time when you start working on your abject apology for your total misrepresentation of the facts! ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25825 "2015-11-29T22:10:10Z")
Since when does “not so much” mean “none?” I thought it just meant that the claim was false. “All fifty U.S. states have ocean coastlines.” “Not so much.” ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25826 "2015-11-29T23:14:12Z")
Trump is counting on 3/5s. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25827 "2015-11-29T23:51:11Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Donald Trump says that he will be meeting with a group of 100 African American pastors on Monday, who will be endorsing his campaign for Presidency. Those pastors say, “uh, not so much”](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/28/those-100-black-pastors-endorsing-donald-trump-on-monday-well-theyre-not-video/) I hope they make him pray! And that they videotape it! The last video of him pretending to pray had me in stitches! But he’s still the frontrunner, (or 2nd place) among right wing Morans, so to his electorate pretending to pray is just about as good as the real thing. It’s the pretend thought that counts. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25828 "2015-11-30T00:00:23Z")
I’m curious, in a sick sort of a way, as to what it would be like of Trump becomes president. I guess Canada would join the EU. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25829 "2015-11-30T02:25:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hey, he got one! You guys with your “not so much” snark, everybody knows that means squadoosh, zero, zip, zilch, nada damn one! But he does have one, says so right there in your cite! Eh, not so much. Only one of those 100 pastors plans to attend Trump’s little pow-wow, and even he isn’t endorsing. > [@](#): > > According to the [Daily Beast](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/28/black-pastors-to-trump-our-meeting-is-not-an-endorsement.html?via=desktop&source=facebook), so far only one of the 100 pastors that Trump has been saying plan to endorse on Monday even plans to attend the candidate’s pathetic press conference. That single pastor, Pastor Darrell Scott, has said he does plan to endorse the candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25830 "2015-11-30T02:31:41Z")
Whoa! Reading again, for comprehension this time . . . Dude IS going to endorse Trump. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25831 "2015-11-30T02:41:44Z")
Better still, let’s read the [Daily Beast](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/28/black-pastors-to-trump-our-meeting-is-not-an-endorsement.html) article that the Addicting Info article cited. It does look like there will be at least several of those black pastors attending Trump’s little pow-wow. But not for the purpose of endorsing him, as they are now emphatically emphasizing. Looks like the Addicting Info article turned that into: “According to the Daily Beast, so far only one of the 100 pastors that Trump has been saying plan to endorse on Monday even plans to attend the candidate’s pathetic press conference.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25832 "2015-11-30T03:00:46Z")
Posted in the Ted Cruz campaign thread by **Ukulele Ike** > [@Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/247): > > Whut the hell is THIS? The Planned Parenthood shooter is a “transgendered leftist?” > > THAT’S an original take from our Priceton/Harvard Genius… > > [Ted Cruz Calls Alleged Planned Parenthood Shooter 'Transgendered Leftist Activist' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-planned-parenthood-shooter-transgender_565ba648e4b072e9d1c23a85) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25833 "2015-11-30T03:14:12Z")
I can somehow understand the claim that he is transgendered, in that he did register to vote as female, but how they think that means he’s transitioning, one wonders. But where does the leftist come from? Are all trans people leftist? I think Republican Caitlin Jenner would disagree. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25834 "2015-11-30T03:17:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I can somehow understand the claim that he is transgendered, in that he did register to vote as female, but how they think that means he’s transitioning, one wonders. But where does the leftist come from? Are all trans people leftist? I think Republican Caitlin Jenner would disagree. It comes from a desperate attempt to avoid being stuck with the accusation that their incitement of stochastic terrorism toward Planned Parenthood was responsible for this incident. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25835 "2015-11-30T03:18:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I can somehow understand the claim that he is transgendered, in that he did register to vote as female, but how they think that means he’s transitioning, one wonders. But where does the leftist come from? Are all trans people leftist? I think Republican Caitlin Jenner would disagree. All the sites carrying that story are way far right. I’m not believing it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25836 "2015-11-30T03:25:10Z")
I posted this in the Ted Cruz thread: Looks like the “transgender” angle came from the execrable Gateway Pundit website, which looked up Robert Dear on the site www.coloradovoters.info, which claims to reproduce CO voter records. That site showed what appeared to be a voter registration for Dear listing his gender as female. The site now gives a 404 error when you try to view Dear’s record. Of course I have no idea if Dear is transgender or not. But that’s very thin sourcing. It might, just maybe, possibly be the case that there was an error in his registration. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25837 "2015-11-30T03:29:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > All the sites carrying that story are way far right. I’m not believing it yet. None of the mainstream news sites have it. Not even FoxNews. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25838 "2015-11-30T03:40:06Z")
The site that Gateway Pundit allegedly got Dear’s registration from is registered to a guy named Tom Alciere. [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=Coloradovoters.info](http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=Coloradovoters.info) Alciere runs sites like this for several states. Before he started these sites, he was a Republican legislator in the NH state House. He held that office for less than two weeks when he resigned under pressure for having said he liked the idea of killing police. He reportedly said things like “Nobody will ever be safe until the last cop is dead.” in online postings. > **[How Your Personal Info Could End Up Online](https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/investigations/troubleshooters-investigation-voting-records/1973358/)** > > The world wide web has ensnared details about all of us, including voting records that publicize personal information that many of us consider to be private. > **[Legislator Who Endorsed Killing of Police Resigns Under Fire (Published 2001)](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/11/us/legislator-who-endorsed-killing-of-police-resigns-under-fire.html)** > > Tom Alciere, newly elected member of New Hampshire House who gained notoriety for saying he supported--even loved--killing of police officers, resigns in face of mounting public outrage; Alciere, who ran as Republican but says he is really... So, I’m not saying the alleged voter registration information is necessarily a fake. I just want to see the long form. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25839 "2015-11-30T14:07:55Z")
Trump refuses to back down on his claim of seeing “thousands” of celebrating Muslims in New Jersey on 9/11. His latest tack? The primitive state of video communications from the distant past of 2001 means any such news footage has probably been lost. Seriously. > (Sorry for the mobile Twitter link, but I’m on my iPad and it’s the best I can do at the moment.) As an aside, I’m also annoyed by the media falling for the premise of whether or not there actually were folks celebrating on 9/11. We’ve seen the people coming out in support of the Colorado Springs shooter, for Christ’s sake, of course there were a few people acting like stupid jerks on 9/11, too. Trump’s claim, though, is that he SAW thousands of such protesters on TV. That is an absolute lie - if such footage was ever broadcast, you know it’d be on repeating loops on Fox News right now. He never saw it, his claim if seeing it is false … yet that’s no longer the point of contention. And conservatives claim our media is biased towards Democrats/liberals. Riiiiiiight. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25840 "2015-11-30T15:42:03Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The site that Gateway Pundit allegedly got Dear’s registration from is registered to a guy named Tom Alciere. > > [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=Coloradovoters.info](http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=Coloradovoters.info) > > Alciere runs sites like this for several states. Before he started these sites, he was a Republican legislator in the NH state House. He held that office for less than two weeks when he resigned under pressure for having said he liked the idea of killing police. He reportedly said things like “Nobody will ever be safe until the last cop is dead.” in online postings. > > [How Your Personal Info Could End Up Online – NBC Connecticut](http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/troubleshooters/Troubleshooters-Investigation-Voting-Records-292310391.html) > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/11/us/legislator-who-endorsed-killing-of-police-resigns-under-fire.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/11/us/legislator-who-endorsed-killing-of-police-resigns-under-fire.html) > > So, I’m not saying the alleged voter registration information is necessarily a fake. I just want to see the long form. The alleged page for Dear is returning a 404. And the Colorado State search is down. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25841 "2015-11-30T16:39:43Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It comes from a desperate attempt to avoid being stuck with the accusation that their incitement of stochastic terrorism toward Planned Parenthood was responsible for this incident. This, of course, comes after their attempt to [pretend that the shooting was actually a bank robbery.](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/11/28/3726130/planned-parenthood-bank-robbery/) Cruz, meanwhile, may want to walk back his [bragging about being endorsed by a pastor who says Christians are morally compelled to kill abortionists.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/30/3726326/before-shooting-cruz-touted-endorsement-from-activist-who-called-for-execution-of-abortion-doctors/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1291) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1293)