# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25842 "2015-11-30T18:20:13Z")

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Y’know what I said earlier about not accusing Cruz of faking his empathy?

I take it back. Now I am accusing him of it.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25843 "2015-11-30T18:35:55Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Cruz, meanwhile, may want to walk back his [bragging about being endorsed by a pastor who says Christians are morally compelled to kill abortionists.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/30/3726326/before-shooting-cruz-touted-endorsement-from-activist-who-called-for-execution-of-abortion-doctors/)

That’s impossible. Over the Thanksgiving break, I was playing ‘old, knee-jerk, Fox-news-isn’t-conservative-enough-let’s-watch-One-America, frightened Republican’ bingo (filled out my whole card within two hours) at my aunt an uncle’s house. Anyhoo, I learned from my cousin that Christians don’t kill people. :smack:

The proof involved talking to a true Scotsman.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25844 "2015-11-30T20:14:35Z")

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Don’t keep us in suspense, did you ask about that “porridge” thing? OK, do they or don’t they?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25845 "2015-11-30T20:41:03Z")

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[Trump says the black pastors were going to endorse him, until #BlackLivesMatter told them not.](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-trump-black-pastors-pulled-endorsement-because-blacklivesmatter-told-them-to/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25846 "2015-11-30T20:47:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Don’t keep us in suspense, did you ask about that “porridge” thing? OK, do they or don’t they?

Well, as a matter of fact, there is this thing Christians do with porridge . . . in deference to your delicate sensibilities, I will say only that Nero was not overreacting.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25847 "2015-11-30T23:08:45Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Don’t keep us in suspense, did you ask about that “porridge” thing? OK, do they or don’t they?

"‘Someone’s been eating my porridge,’ said the mama bear…

And we all know who the mama bear is, right, Sarah?

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25848 "2015-12-01T01:36:57Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> As an aside, I’m also annoyed by the media falling for the premise of whether or not there actually were folks celebrating on 9/11. We’ve seen the people coming out in support of the Colorado Springs shooter, for Christ’s sake, of course there were a few people acting like stupid jerks on 9/11, too. Trump’s claim, though, is that he SAW thousands of such protesters on TV. That is an absolute lie - if such footage was ever broadcast, you know it’d be on repeating loops on Fox News right now. He never saw it, his claim if seeing it is false … yet that’s no longer the point of contention.

Every once in a while, I think that maybe the national reporters actually aren’t big pussies who wouldn’t say shit if they had a mouthful. I think that maybe they actually do get a lot of calls and emails from credentialed scientists saying climate change is a hoax, or something. Even if only 1% of scientists believe it, if that 1% all feel strongly enough to call somebody, then that would be thousands of calls, and if other 99% think it’s too loony to even debate, then it might seem like a legitimate question to somebody who didn’t take many science classes on his way to a journalism degree.

But for fuck’s sake, this is about their own specialty. They know for a fact that they aren’t burning or suppressing the videos that would vindicate Trump on the 911 cheering thing. They know for a fact that at best, he’s being willfully ignorant, and more likely, he’s lying. But they won’t say it, just as they won’t call Ben Carson a kook for believing ludicrous stuff that has no Biblical, let alone scientific, basis.

If they won’t stand on their hind legs on this, then they never will.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25849 "2015-12-01T02:45:20Z")

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[Michele Bachmann: Refugees coming to America in order to commit “rape jihad” against non-Muslim women and girls.](http://www.salon.com/2015/11/30/michele_bachmann_refugees_coming_to_america_in_order_to_commit_rape_jihad_against_non_muslim_women_and_girls/)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25850 "2015-12-01T03:15:47Z")

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Maybe she has Syrian rape fantasies. It’s not like she’s getting any from her husband.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25851 "2015-12-01T03:16:48Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> Trump refuses to back down on his claim of seeing “thousands” of celebrating Muslims in New Jersey on 9/11. His latest tack? The primitive state of video communications from the distant past of 2001 means any such news footage has probably been lost. Seriously.

He’s never seen The Daily Show? :eek:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25852 "2015-12-01T03:49:12Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Maybe she has Syrian rape fantasies.

Wouldn’t we all be more surprised if she didn’t?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25853 "2015-12-01T03:58:44Z")

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She probably has HBO. _Fifty Shades of Grey_ premiered this month.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25854 "2015-12-01T05:50:45Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> Trump refuses to back down on his claim of seeing “thousands” of celebrating Muslims in New Jersey on 9/11. His latest tack? The primitive state of video communications from the distant past of 2001 means any such news footage has probably been lost. Seriously.
> 
> [x.com](https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgoodmancbs/status/671319356815618049)
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> (Sorry for the mobile Twitter link, but I’m on my iPad and it’s the best I can do at the moment.)
> 
> As an aside, I’m also annoyed by the media falling for the premise of whether or not there actually were folks celebrating on 9/11. We’ve seen the people coming out in support of the Colorado Springs shooter, for Christ’s sake, of course there were a few people acting like stupid jerks on 9/11, too. Trump’s claim, though, is that he SAW thousands of such protesters on TV. That is an absolute lie - if such footage was ever broadcast, you know it’d be on repeating loops on Fox News right now. He never saw it, his claim if seeing it is false … yet that’s no longer the point of contention.
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> And conservatives claim our media is biased towards Democrats/liberals. Riiiiiiight.

I can’t believe I’m saying this. ☹

I have a fuzzy recollection of seeing a news story showing people celebrating the 9/11 attack on the towers, but my recollection is that these were people in the _Middle East_, \*not \*in the United States (any of 'em). Might have been Palestinians, in fact, which could explain his confusion with Patterson. [NB: I make no guarantees that I am remembering correctly. It was 14 years ago, and that’s the sort of thing I’d actively try to forget.]

And now I’ve half defended Donald Trump, which makes me feel really, really queasy. Yirk. Where’s that barfing smiley when you need it?

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25855 "2015-12-01T06:20:26Z")

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Don’t feel bad, I recall it that way, too, which means that the Donald is still wrong, and you’re still not defending him.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25856 "2015-12-01T06:45:44Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I can’t believe I’m saying this. ☹
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> I have a fuzzy recollection of seeing a news story showing people celebrating the 9/11 attack on the towers

Fellow rememberer here.

I also remember that some sources were saying that it was people in America doing the celebrating, but that was actually debunked on this very board. I could easily see someone “remembering” that it was people in America celebrating.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25857 "2015-12-01T06:46:02Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I can’t believe I’m saying this. ☹
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> I have a fuzzy recollection of seeing a news story showing people celebrating the 9/11 attack on the towers, but my recollection is that these were people in the _Middle East_, \*not \*in the United States (any of 'em). Might have been Palestinians, in fact, which could explain his confusion with Patterson. [NB: I make no guarantees that I am remembering correctly. It was 14 years ago, and that’s the sort of thing I’d actively try to forget.]
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> And now I’ve half defended Donald Trump, which makes me feel really, really queasy. Yirk. Where’s that barfing smiley when you need it?

If he made an honest mistake, he’s had plenty of time to realize it. So he’s either lying or is willfully ignorant, and considering the nature of his accusation, either would disqualify him if we had either a competent press or a sane voting public.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25858 "2015-12-01T08:25:20Z")

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Disqualify him from what, seeking the Pubbie nomination? Anybody can have that. Pubbies are disqualified from actually _winning_ the presidency, just by being Pubbies.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25859 "2015-12-01T08:54:21Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Michele Bachmann: Refugees coming to America in order to commit “rape jihad” against non-Muslim women and girls.](http://www.salon.com/2015/11/30/michele_bachmann_refugees_coming_to_america_in_order_to_commit_rape_jihad_against_non_muslim_women_and_girls/)

Waitaminnit, I thought it was the Mexicans doing that! Now I’m confused.

DT and MB need to pow-wow and get their stories straight.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25860 "2015-12-01T08:59:11Z")

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That’s right, all the major news sources that jumped all over Trump have pointed out that there were videos of 9/11 celebrations in the Middle East, and one report of some scattered _alleged_ celebrations in NJ that the police checked out and nothing came of it. It seems to be that news article about police checking some reports of scattered NJ celebrations that Trump magnified into thousands and thousands of Arab-Americans dancing in the streets of New Jersey.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25861 "2015-12-01T10:35:47Z")

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On MTP last Sunday, Chuck Todd suggested to Trump that maybe he was confusing the celebrations in the middle east with some rumors about New Jersey, but Donald refused to accept that as an explanation.

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