# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/241 "2009-05-26T15:54:03Z")
I just read another thread where it was mentioned that federal money can’t be spent to assist a foreigner have an abortion in the US. This is a brilliant solution for ultra-conservatives. The choice used to be, abortion vs. newborn but brown American citizen. Now they can let the baby be born and immediately deport it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/242 "2009-05-26T16:54:41Z")
Hmmm. Transported over the border by catapult, or drop-kick? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/243 "2009-05-26T18:37:08Z")
It’s not the Jus Soli that’s the stupid part. It’s the framing it as ‘Well, we need to keep this as a white country, so if we stop them illegals from giving citizenship to their kids, we can stop them from being Democrats!’ bit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/244 "2009-05-26T18:42:19Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > It’s not the Jus Soli that’s the stupid part. It’s the framing it as ‘Well, we need to keep this as a white country, so if we stop them illegals from giving citizenship to their kids, we can stop them from being Democrats!’ bit. I think you may be reading something into the story that isn’t there. I mean, it’s not wholly unreasonable to assume that his line of thought isn’t a million miles away from that, but there’s no evidence of this. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/245 "2009-05-26T19:22:48Z")
That story, yes. But that pretty much seems to sum up the tactics the man has been taking, if you check him out a bit. [http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/22/steele-obama-race/](http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/22/steele-obama-race/) "Steele: Obama ‘Was Not Vetted Because The Press Fell In Love With The Black Man Running For The Office’ " Mmmmmnooo, not what I wanted to hear from you today. [http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/05/26/rnc-fumbles-sotomayor-talking-points/](http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/05/26/rnc-fumbles-sotomayor-talking-points/) Ah, here we go. The talking points. Hm. Nope, no foot in his mouth. Got a clearly biased and encoded statement out, but it’s tolerable. Rush just wants her to fail. And Obama to fail, too. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/246 "2009-05-26T19:25:53Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > It’s not the Jus Soli that’s the stupid part. It’s the framing it as ‘Well, we need to keep this as a white country, so if we stop them illegals from giving citizenship to their kids, we can stop them from being Democrats!’ bit. Actually, the really stupid part is thinking they can just enact a law to do this. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution says: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. " According to Wiki, the bill’s sponsors claim that illegal immigrants (and their spawn) are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, and therefor not protected by the 14th Amendment, and so the 14th Amendment doesn’t need amending. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/247 "2009-05-26T20:36:27Z")
Okay, that’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/248 "2009-05-26T21:00:02Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Actually, the really stupid part is thinking they can just enact a law to do this. > > The 14th Amendment of the Constitution says: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. " > > According to Wiki, the bill’s sponsors claim that illegal immigrants (and their spawn) are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, and therefor not protected by the 14th Amendment, and so the 14th Amendment doesn’t need amending. “Not subject to the jurisdiction of” - I don’t think this means what they think it means. 😛 Of course, if I was an illegal immigrant, I might love such a concept. “Hey, you can’t arrest me! I’m not subject to your jurisdiction!!” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/249 "2009-05-26T21:14:26Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > “Not subject to the jurisdiction of” - I don’t think this means what they think it means. 😛 > > Of course, if I was an illegal immigrant, I might love such a concept. “Hey, you can’t arrest me! I’m not subject to your jurisdiction!!” :smack: IANALawyer, and my first thought was… then how do aliens get arrested and deported? So, as an ACTUAL twisty-brained attorney, DS, can you construe some interpretation of what they MIGHT mean that could be legally defensible? ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/250 "2009-05-26T21:52:56Z")
Please. I try very hard not to imagine three impossible things before breakfast (or any other time of the day!). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/251 "2009-05-26T23:44:51Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Please. I try very hard not to imagine three impossible things before breakfast (or any other time of the day!). 😃 Jeez, I’m only asking for one! And please, put in a disclaimer to make clear that you are not creating an attorney-client relationship, which BTW, I don’t want either. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/252 "2009-05-28T00:04:16Z")
This thread is fun. This may not be the Daily Stupid, but it is still a new flavor of stupid to sprinkle on our sundae… And there’s just no excuse for this thread being dead all day! Surely there were five stupider Republican ideas today than this: Today, Tom Sullivan told me that the Chrysler dealers being closed (suggested to be closed?) were picked based on the political donations of the dealership owners. Dealership owners with R donations were on Obama’s Enemies List (no shit), and had to go. Hypothetical pop quiz: You own a business. Your business thrives on polluting. Which party do you donate to? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/253 "2009-05-28T00:44:59Z")
I don’t know, but I’ve alerted the appropriate people and this Tom Sullivan fellow is now on the list too. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/254 "2009-05-28T01:25:51Z")
> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#): > > Today, Tom Sullivan told me that the Chrysler dealers being closed (suggested to be closed?) were picked based on the political donations of the dealership owners. Dealership owners with R donations were on Obama’s Enemies List (no shit), and had to go. > > Hypothetical pop quiz: You own a business. Your business thrives on polluting. Which party do you donate to? Funny you should bring that up – a [simple analysis](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/05/news-flash-car-dealers-are-republicans.html) was posted on fivethirtyeight today. Of the available data on the contributions that car dealers made to Democratic or Republican candidates, 88% of the money went to Republican candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/255 "2009-05-28T02:26:31Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > Funny you should bring that up – a [simple analysis](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/05/news-flash-car-dealers-are-republicans.html) was posted on fivethirtyeight today. Of the available data on the contributions that car dealers made to Democratic or Republican candidates, 88% of the money went to Republican candidates. Wow, they’re closing 88% of the dealerships? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/256 "2009-06-02T19:00:49Z")
Bumping for [this](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/30/RNC-slams-Obama-Broadway-date-night/UPI-75081243725725/). Other than just pitching a complete fit anytime Obama does anything, what do they hope to gain from this? Besides, You would think they would be encouraging the President to see more plays. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/257 "2009-06-02T19:05:11Z")
> [@yanceylebeef](#): > > Bumping for [this](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/30/RNC-slams-Obama-Broadway-date-night/UPI-75081243725725/). > Other than just pitching a complete fit anytime Obama does anything, what do they hope to gain from this? > > Besides, You would think they would be encouraging the President to see more plays. Ha! The hissyfit over that is really stupid considering that The Previous Occupant spent more time on vacation, either in Crawford or Camp David, than any president…ever. And I don’t think he was flying coach with Southwest Airlines to get to Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/258 "2009-06-02T19:06:21Z")
Trying to keep up here… [The RNC has attacked the Obamas for going on a date in New York](http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/31/the-rnc-takes-cheap-shot-at-obamas-new-york-date-night/): > [@](#): > > “As President Obama prepares to wing into Manhattan’s theater district on Air Force One to take in a Broadway show, GM is preparing to file bankruptcy and families across America continue to struggle to pay their bills,” RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said in an email this afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/259 "2009-06-02T19:19:15Z")
Practically a simulpost over the very same story. ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/260 "2009-06-02T19:25:18Z")
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