# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25982 "2015-12-06T02:20:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> What do you think he was saying, then?

He was calling to kill the members of radical Islam. Does that, in your opinion, include all Muslims?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25983 "2015-12-06T02:32:03Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Pataki tweets:  
> Since the military does not operate in the U.S. and police can’t go around gunning down random people in the streets(irony), who do you think this is directed toward?

Former governors. Specifically Sarah Palin, after she reloads.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25984 "2015-12-06T02:46:37Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> He was calling to kill the members of radical Islam. Does that, in your opinion, include all Muslims?

It would be nice if he defined his terms.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25985 "2015-12-06T03:01:11Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> It would be nice if he defined his terms.

I’ve got a pretty clear understanding of, “He literally called for a genocide against all Muslims”. That’s a statement that doesn’t call for much definition of terms.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25986 "2015-12-06T03:47:23Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> He was calling to kill the members of radical Islam. Does that, in your opinion, include all Muslims?

A more germane question would be, does it in his?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25987 "2015-12-06T04:02:48Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> He was calling to kill the members of radical Islam. Does that, in your opinion, include all Muslims?

Even so, his “come at me, bro” to the AG at the end indicates that he thinks calling for the deaths of violent terrorists will get him locked up by the Obama administration, so it’s still a pretty stupid statement.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25988 "2015-12-06T04:48:44Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Even so, his “come at me, bro” to the AG at the end indicates that he thinks calling for the deaths of violent terrorists will get him locked up by the Obama administration, so it’s still a pretty stupid statement.

He desperately wants to be a martyr, somehow. “Look at me, bravely standing up against the tyranny of the PC liberals” who couldn’t care less about what I say and will do nothing against me.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25989 "2015-12-06T07:03:06Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **He desperately wants to be a martyr** , somehow. “Look at me, bravely standing up against the tyranny of the PC liberals” who couldn’t care less about what I say and will do nothing against me.

Bad governor! No 72 virgins for you!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25990 "2015-12-06T07:28:25Z")

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This whole seventy two virgins thing is definitely more appealing as an eternal reward compared to standing around forever singing praise. Wondering if you can trade in the virgins for a just a couple that may be a bit slutty but smart and read a lot?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25991 "2015-12-06T08:11:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> One wonders which Muslim terrorists Obama has brought into the country. Surely not Sayed Farook, who was born in Chicago?

Cite? That’s right; we need the _long_ form.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25992 "2015-12-06T08:26:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> One wonders which Muslim terrorists Obama has brought into the country. Surely not Sayed Farook, who was born in Chicago?

In fact, he was born in Chicago in 1987, the exact time Obama was working as a “community organizer” in Chicago.

Coincidence?

Yeah, probably.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25993 "2015-12-06T13:54:55Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Bad governor! No 72 virgins for you!

Can we get the number of virgins prorated if we’re not fully committed to the cause? Eight or ten would do for me.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25994 "2015-12-06T15:26:44Z")

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OK, buddy, here’s yer 72 virgins! This here’s Sister Mary Immaculate, this next one is…what? You gotta problem? You wanted 72 hot, horny young virgins? Go find 'em yourself, we already emptied out Baylor, TCU, and Liberty University…

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25995 "2015-12-06T16:33:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, buddy, here’s yer 72 virgins! This here’s Sister Mary Immaculate, this next one is…what? You gotta problem? You wanted 72 hot, horny young virgins? Go find 'em yourself, we already emptied out Baylor, TCU, and Liberty University…

There does seem to be an essential problem of supply and demand.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25996 "2015-12-06T17:21:10Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> This whole seventy two virgins thing is definitely more appealing as an eternal reward compared to standing around forever singing praise. Wondering if you can trade in the virgins for a just a couple that may be a bit slutty but smart and read a lot?

So, Catholic girls?

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25997 "2015-12-06T17:59:21Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> So, Catholic girls?

In a little white dress…

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25998 "2015-12-06T18:14:58Z")

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Steve Martin’s “[Seven-Two Virgins](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/01/29/seventy-two-virgins)”.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/25999 "2015-12-06T21:23:00Z")

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Have we done Jerry Falwell, Jr., lately? President of Liberty U urges all students to get CC permits and come to school so armed, so “we could end those Muslims before they walked in”.

[Jerry Falwell Jr.: ‘If more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those’ Islamist terrorists](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/05/liberty-university-president-if-more-good-people-had-concealed-guns-we-could-end-those-muslims/), Washington Post, Dec. 5, 2015.

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> “If some of those people in that community center had what I have in my back pocket right now …,” he said while being interrupted by louder cheers and clapping. “Is it illegal to pull it out? I don’t know,” he said, chuckling.
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> “I’ve always thought that if more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those Muslims before they walked in,” he says, the rest of his sentence drowned out by loud applause while he said, “and killed them.”
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> “I just wanted to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to get your permit. We offer a free course,” he said. “Let’s teach them a lesson if they ever show up here.”

(Falwell himself estimated that Liberty U has 15 to 20 Muslim students.)

Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) responds, calling his statement “rash and repugnant”.

(ETA: Did Falwell really say “…and killed them”, drowned out by cheers and applause? I didn’t see that mentioned in one other article I read. How certain would it be that he said that, if it was drowned out?)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26000 "2015-12-06T21:32:34Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> (Falwell himself estimated that Liberty U has 15 to 20 Muslim students.)

That’s the “stupid idea” part, right?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26001 "2015-12-06T21:33:27Z")

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Okay, I found similar articles at _The Atlantic_ that includes the “…and killed them” bit, and one at _Slate_ that doesn’t.

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