# Stupid Republican idea of the day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1301
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26002 "2015-12-06T21:34:23Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Have we done Jerry Falwell, Jr., lately? President of Liberty U urges all students to get CC permits and come to school so armed, so “we could end those Muslims before they walked in”. > > [Jerry Falwell Jr.: ‘If more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those’ Islamist terrorists](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/05/liberty-university-president-if-more-good-people-had-concealed-guns-we-could-end-those-muslims/), Washington Post, Dec. 5, 2015. > > (Falwell himself estimated that Liberty U has 15 to 20 Muslim students.) > > Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) responds, calling his statement “rash and repugnant”. > > (ETA: Did Falwell really say “…and killed them”, drowned out by cheers and applause? I didn’t see that mentioned in one other article I read. How certain would it be that he said that, if it was drowned out?) [There’s still lots of restrictions.](http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?pid=4153) And it was only recently that atotal ban of firearms on campus was lifted. > [@](#): > > Firearms on Campus > > In light of the trend regarding respecting concealed weapons permits on University campuses, **Liberty University’s Board of Trustees has amended the campus weapons policy to remove the total ban on firearms.** THE NEW POLICY CREATES EXCEPTIONS FOR UNIVERSITY VISITORS WITH VALID CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMITS TO COME ON CAMPUS WITH THEIR WEAPONS. THE POLICY IS DESIGNED SO PERSONS WITH CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMITS CAN CARRY THEM CONCEALED ON CAMPUS AS THEY WOULD OFF CAMPUS AND KEEP THEIR WEAPONS IN THEIR LOCKED CARS WHILE VISITING CAMPUS WITHOUT VIOLATING UNIVERSITY POLICY. Similarly, members of the University community that are over 21 with concealed weapons permits **can seek permission from LUPD** to carry concealed weapons ON CAMPUS and store them in their locked vehicles. LUPD can also permit certain faculty and staff to have concealed weapons stored in secured containers in their offices. **HOWEVER, STUDENTS MAY NOT CARRY OR STORE WEAPONS IN RESIDENCE HALLS.** The weapons policy also outlines a new procedure for members of the University community of any age to store their weapons with LUPD. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26003 "2015-12-06T21:36:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > That’s the “stupid idea” part, right? If Lib U actually has any on-campus Muslim students, might one suppose that they have a case against the school, and against Falwell personally, for “creating a hostile environment” on campus? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26004 "2015-12-07T00:13:07Z")
Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh too! > [@Kaitlyn Schallhorn](#): > > A former U.S. congressman urged Attorney General Loretta Lynch to arrest him after she warned on Thursday that her office would take a more aggressive approach to those spewing anti-Muslim rhetoric. > > “I think Islam has a real freaking problem, alright?” Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh said in a video posted to his Facebook page. “There is a cancer in Islam, and if they’re not going to learn to assimilate, I don’t want them in this country.” [Former Congressman Unleashes on Attorney General in Rant Against Islam: ‘Go Ahead and Prosecute Me. I Dare You.’](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/05/former-congressman-unleashes-on-attorney-general-in-rant-against-islam-go-ahead-and-prosecute-me-i-dare-you/) Just to be clear: Not to be confused with some earlier posts about Pataki saying shit like this. It appears that they are _both_ saying shit like this. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26005 "2015-12-07T01:05:30Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > If Lib U actually has any on-campus Muslim students, might one suppose that they have a case against the school, and against Falwell personally, for “creating a hostile environment” on campus? Falwell would probably have you shot for calling it “Lib U.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26006 "2015-12-07T01:09:27Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Falwell would probably have you shot for calling it “Lib U.” Can we call the students Lib-tards? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26007 "2015-12-07T02:00:05Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > If Lib U actually has any on-campus Muslim students, might one suppose that they have a case against the school, and against Falwell personally, for “creating a hostile environment” on campus? If, God forbid, someone actually does shoot a Muslim student, Jerry Fallwell could go down the way Tom Metzger did. It’s beyond stupid to say, “Let’s shoot people” in today’s U.S. It puts Fallwell right up there alongside ISIS and AQ. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26008 "2015-12-07T02:34:13Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > (Falwell himself estimated that Liberty U has 15 to 20 Muslim students.) That’s strange. Here is the [LU Doctrinal Statement](http://www.liberty.edu/aboutliberty/?PID=6907). I don’t see how a Muslim could accept it, e.g.: “We affirm that each person can be saved only through the work of Jesus Christ, through repentance of sin and by faith alone in Him as Savior. The believer is declared righteous, born again by the Holy Spirit, turned from sin, and assured of heaven.” ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26009 "2015-12-07T16:54:44Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh too! > > [Former Congressman Unleashes on Attorney General in Rant Against Islam: ‘Go Ahead and Prosecute Me. I Dare You.’](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/05/former-congressman-unleashes-on-attorney-general-in-rant-against-islam-go-ahead-and-prosecute-me-i-dare-you/) > > Just to be clear: Not to be confused with some earlier posts about Pataki saying shit like this. It appears that they are _both_ saying shit like this. Pataki [saying something like that](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/05/gop-2016-candidate-calls-for-muslim-genocide-im-declaring-we-kill-them-tweet/) greatly surprised me. He’s been a white bread conservative type. Won his original governorship by promising to sign a death penalty law, but then laid off a few government workers and generally had a fairly quiet twelve years in office, even 2001. The madness of this GOP primary season must have gotten to him. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26010 "2015-12-07T17:23:24Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Pataki [saying something like that](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/05/gop-2016-candidate-calls-for-muslim-genocide-im-declaring-we-kill-them-tweet/) greatly surprised me. He’s been a white bread conservative type. Won his original governorship by promising to sign a death penalty law, but then laid off a few government workers and generally had a fairly quiet twelve years in office, even 2001. > > The madness of this GOP primary season must have gotten to him. Pataki just wants to be noticed and has had an epiphany that in today’s GOP you have to out-crazy the other guys in order to get noticed. It is pragmatism, really. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26011 "2015-12-07T17:39:36Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > That’s strange. Here is the [LU Doctrinal Statement](http://www.liberty.edu/aboutliberty/?PID=6907). I don’t see how a Muslim could accept it, e.g.: > > “We affirm that each person can be saved only through the work of Jesus Christ, through repentance of sin and by faith alone in Him as Savior. The believer is declared righteous, born again by the Holy Spirit, turned from sin, and assured of heaven.” Looking around I found [this](http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1271226). It doesn’t address the issue you raised, but it appears that being an open Muslim at Liberty university isn’t impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26012 "2015-12-07T18:40:59Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > That’s strange. Here is the [LU Doctrinal Statement](http://www.liberty.edu/aboutliberty/?PID=6907). I don’t see how a Muslim could accept it, e.g.: > > “We affirm that each person can be saved only through the work of Jesus Christ, through repentance of sin and by faith alone in Him as Savior. The believer is declared righteous, born again by the Holy Spirit, turned from sin, and assured of heaven.” You don’t accept it. You ignore it. As a Hindu, and later as an atheist, I was able to attend explicitly Christian private schools with similar doctrines. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26013 "2015-12-07T18:44:32Z")
I do however, think the dig that “maybe these students’ idea to attend there is the actual SRIOTD” was funny. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26014 "2015-12-07T18:55:12Z")
They have a pretty good internal financial aid program, and because it’s largely only stupid people that would choose to go for any other reason you can pretty much go for free if you’re normal and have mediocre qualifications. I would have qualified for a full scholarship to Liberty’s law school despite a 2.5 undergraduate GPA (too drunk to go to class, and it was UCF so I could never find parking when I actually tried to go). The med school just opened last year so its admission requirements and financial aid offers were probably even softer. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26015 "2015-12-07T19:14:12Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Have we done Jerry Falwell, Jr., lately? President of Liberty U urges all students to get CC permits and come to school so armed, so “we could end those Muslims before they walked in”. > > [Jerry Falwell Jr.: ‘If more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those’ Islamist terrorists](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/05/liberty-university-president-if-more-good-people-had-concealed-guns-we-could-end-those-muslims/), Washington Post, Dec. 5, 2015. I’d love to ask him where in the Gospels one finds this “kill them before they kill you” verse. I’ve read all four canonical Gospels multiple times, and somehow I’m having trouble remembering anything that might fit. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26016 "2015-12-07T19:17:58Z")
I believe it was in the parable where Jesus declares “Yippie-kay-ay, motherfucker” before blowing the Probably-A-Terrorist Samaritan’s head off. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26017 "2015-12-07T19:24:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I believe it was in the parable where Jesus declares “Yippie-kay-ay, motherfucker” before blowing the Probably-A-Terrorist Samaritan’s head off. No, the original is “Kill them all and let God sort them out.” Can’t find the exact verse, though. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26018 "2015-12-07T19:51:27Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > In fact, he was born in Chicago in 1987, the exact time Obama was working as a “community organizer” in Chicago. > > Coincidence? > > Yeah, probably. Chicago huh? This would never have happened if the PC crybabies let the cops do their job. They probably would have shot him for looking funny before he hit puberty. ---
**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26019 "2015-12-07T19:51:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > No, the original is “Kill them all and let God sort them out.” > Can’t find the exact verse, though. [This wiki entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaud_Amalric) indicates the original statement (not from the bible, but 13th century Papal Legate Arnaud Amalric) was “Kill them all. For the Lord knoweth them that are His”. How accurate that is, I defer to the experts. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26020 "2015-12-07T19:52:51Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I’d love to ask him where in the Gospels one finds this “kill them before they kill you” verse. I’ve read all four canonical Gospels multiple times, and somehow I’m having trouble remembering anything that might fit. It’s in the Apocrypha – Book of Armaments, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26021 "2015-12-07T19:55:34Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Have we done Jerry Falwell, Jr., lately? President of Liberty U urges all students to get CC permits and come to school so armed, so “we could end those Muslims before they walked in”. > > [Jerry Falwell Jr.: ‘If more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those’ Islamist terrorists](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/05/liberty-university-president-if-more-good-people-had-concealed-guns-we-could-end-those-muslims/), Washington Post, Dec. 5, 2015. Falwell should start a new Crusade (the current Pope sure won’t) and lead the nuts to Iraq to fight ISIS. If they take all their guns with them that will help things here also. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1300) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897.md?page=1302)