# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26022 "2015-12-07T20:10:27Z")

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A Trump adviser says it was disrespectful to Jews for President Obama to give a speech on Hanukah; [he should have done it on Shabbat, instead](http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamserwer/trump-adviser-doesnt-get-how-judaism-works#.ml7XBBE1p). :smack:

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26023 "2015-12-07T20:36:44Z")

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> [@SirRay](#):
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> [This wiki entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaud_Amalric) indicates the original statement (not from the bible, but 13th century Papal Legate Arnaud Amalric) was “Kill them all. For the Lord knoweth them that are His”.  
> How accurate that is, I defer to the experts.

It’s accurate to the source, however the source is very likely to be full of shit : it is one lone German source, by a monk who wasn’t there and wrote about it 20 years after the fact.

Still, historians tend to agree that while the quote itself is probably bogus ; the sentiment conveyed is more or less accurate. In reality Arnaud Amalric was only informed of the successful seizing of the city after the massacre had already begun (so he could hardly have ordered it himself at that point) ; however earlier in the day he’d warned the Catholics in town to leave post haste if they didn’t want to share the fate of the Cathars - meaning an indiscriminate massacre was already in the cards.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26024 "2015-12-07T20:37:54Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Falwell should start a new Crusade (the current Pope sure won’t) and lead the nuts to Iraq to fight ISIS. If they take all their guns with them that will help things here also.

Wonder if we could start a fund to ship them all to the Middle East. I’d be happy to pay a share of their transport costs if it would get them away from here. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26025 "2015-12-07T20:50:06Z")

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Crazy gun lover Michele Fiore is back in the news. Just about a week after putting out her family Christmas card showing[all of them totin’ guns](http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/field/media/merryfiore2.jpg), she comes out with this:

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> [“What–are you kidding me? I’m about to fly to Paris and shoot ‘em in the head myself! I am not OK with Syrian refugees. I’m not OK with terrorists. I’m OK with putting them down, blacking them out, just put a piece of brass in their ocular cavity and end their miserable life. I’m good with that.”](http://www.occupydemocrats.com/republican-threatens-refugees-ill-shoot-them-myself-to-end-their-miserable-lives/)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26026 "2015-12-07T20:54:52Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Crazy gun lover Michele Fiore is back in the news. Just about a week after putting out her family Christmas card showing[all of them totin’ guns](http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/field/media/merryfiore2.jpg), she comes out with this:

Good thing we don’t have any of them radicalized, gun-totin’, kill-em-all, Mooslem refugees running around.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26027 "2015-12-08T00:22:32Z")

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Wow, that Xmas card is a blatant photoshop.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26028 "2015-12-08T00:24:43Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Wonder if we could start a fund to ship them all to the Middle East. I’d be happy to pay a share of their transport costs if it would get them away from here. 🙂

“_We will be happy to finance your travel to Syria, and a big wad of ammo for use when you get there (they all look like Arabs, so please try to shoot the right ones). We will need some kind of collateral, though. Some way to know who this fund is on behalf of. Your passport should do nicely for that._”

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26029 "2015-12-08T00:45:45Z")

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This isn’t a stupid Republican idea of the day, more like of the past 5 or 6 decades.  
[The Political F word. When and how should we talk about Fascism.](http://weeklysift.com/2015/11/30/the-political-f-word/)

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> When Donald Trump started talking about closing American mosques and perhaps even having Muslims register with the government, when he called for a “deportation force” to search out and expel the 11 million Hispanic immigrants estimated to be in the country illegally, and then when he justified his supporters in “roughing up” a protester at his rally, a number of his fellow Republicans began to use the word fascist.
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> Once you start viewing Trump through that lens, a number of his previous statements — many of which were seen at the time as so outrageous they would doom his campaign — take on a different significance, particularly his xenophobic comments about immigrants and the way his speeches rely more on assertions of his own greatness than on any identifiable policies or political philosophy. (It also wasn’t the first time he had justified the violence of his followers.)

It’s a long article but well worth the read IMO.

My parents had front row seats during the rise of Nazism and when they arrived in the USA back in 1960 they were appalled at the parallels even back then. This article perfectly sums up my long standing feelings of unease. Makes me wonder if the chickens are finally coming home to roost.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26030 "2015-12-08T01:18:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> CNBC retweeted  
> CNBC Now @CNBCnow  
> GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump calls for “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” [Link](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration)

Somewhere in [this speech](https://youtu.be/TC_vQaePIK4?t=56m45s) he calls for censoring the internet.

It gets less and less farfetched to call him a fascist.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26031 "2015-12-08T01:33:47Z")

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I’m having a good time with the mental picture of Michele Fiore hitting Paris with a busload of her pet wingnuts. What would they do? Where would they go? Why don’t these people understand English? Why is the bread so weird-looking? Where’s the nearest McDonald’s?

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26032 "2015-12-08T02:02:21Z")

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Another stupid Republican lie of the day: [Ted Cruz Tells Fabricated Story About A Girl Threatened With Jail For Saying ‘Jesus’](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/12/07/3729266/ted-cruz-jail-jesus/).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26033 "2015-12-08T03:04:24Z")

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Christian publishing house publishes a tell-all book from a former White House chef for Dubya and Clinton. [Turns out he was never a White House chef](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/07/christian-publisher-prints-tell-all-book-from-white-house-chef-who-never-worked-at-white-house/). Nor did he get knighted by the Queen for his food, nor does he have a degree from Cornell.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26034 "2015-12-08T04:32:16Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> I’m having a good time with the mental picture of Michele Fiore hitting Paris with a busload of her pet wingnuts. What would they do? Where would they go? Why don’t these people understand English? Why is the bread so weird-looking? Where’s the nearest McDonald’s?

Pretty sure they’d be refused a visa on terrorism grounds.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26035 "2015-12-08T04:39:57Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Pretty sure they’d be refused a visa on terrorism grounds.

“You people are insane, we’re _Americans!_”

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26036 "2015-12-08T08:42:46Z")

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I realize this thread is for moronic ideas by Republican leaders, not for the jabberings of idiots too incontinent for office. But some stupidities would be worth a laugh even if they came from the mouth of a speaking-bird or Eliza-bot with no comprehension.

And **Starving Artist** lacks the intellect to deserve his own Pit thread.

The following quote is strung out among three posts in a thread [as I have summarized in this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18917809&postcount=119).

[QUOTE=Starving Artist]  
… show me black families that live by the values of people like the Clarence Thomases, the Herman Cains and the Ben Carsons, and I’ll show you black families … who are admired and welcomed by their white neighbors and business associates, and who don’t get hassled for “driving while black”.

… [But] celebrities [like Barack Obama, Henry Louis Gates, Beyonce etc.] hold their positions by virtue of winning society’s lottery rather than earning them the way most people would be able to if they lived by correct values and applied themselves.  
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26037 "2015-12-08T09:52:14Z")

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Well, I guess on Planet **Starving Artist** , you’re only living by ‘correct values’ if you’re a registered Republican.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26038 "2015-12-08T10:00:14Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I realize this thread is for moronic ideas by Republican leaders, not for the jabberings of idiots too incontinent for office. But some stupidities would be worth a laugh even if they came from the mouth of a speaking-bird or Eliza-bot with no comprehension.
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> And **Starving Artist** lacks the intellect to deserve his own Pit thread.
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> The following quote is strung out among three posts in a thread
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> > [@](#):
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> > [But] celebrities [like Barack Obama, Henry Louis Gates, Beyonce etc.] hold their positions by virtue of winning society’s lottery rather than earning them the way most people would be able to if they lived by correct values and applied themselves

Kind of scary to think what Obama might have done if he had applied himself.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26039 "2015-12-08T14:19:29Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Somewhere in [this speech](https://youtu.be/TC_vQaePIK4?t=56m45s) he calls for censoring the internet.
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> It gets less and less farfetched to call him a fascist.

I still get the feeling that he’s only _pretending_ to be a fascist, as that’s the way to get the most attention/votes.

But as Kurt Vonnegut said, you are what you pretend to be.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26040 "2015-12-08T14:28:36Z")

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And therefore it is very, very important what you pretend to be.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26041 "2015-12-08T14:43:27Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I still get the feeling that he’s only _pretending_ to be a fascist, as that’s the way to get the most attention/votes.
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> But as Kurt Vonnegut said, you are what you pretend to be.

I pretend to be rich, smart and good looking.

It doesn’t help much.

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