# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26342 "2015-12-23T22:18:01Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> There’s a school that’s actually called _ **Snowflake** _ High school?
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> That tickles me. All the parents there with there special little snowflakes…

No, there is a whole fucking town called Snowflake. Everyone from there is just precious. But, Arizona, you know, all those people are … umm … special.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26343 "2015-12-23T22:28:00Z")

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Snowflake, Arizona? Is there an equal and opposite Cactus, Alaska?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26344 "2015-12-23T22:28:52Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, there is a whole fucking town called Snowflake.

I’ll bet everything I own someone in City Hall has a slush fund.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26345 "2015-12-23T22:35:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Atheists are sucking the joy out of Christmas.](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/fox-hosts-atheists-are-sucking-the-joy-out-of-christmas-by-expecting-tolerance/)

You’re welcome. I knew exactly in the moment that I didn’t pray, some good news was brewing. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26346 "2015-12-23T23:03:01Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Snowflake, Arizona? Is there an equal and opposite Cactus, Alaska?

I heard the people there are a bunch of pricks.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26347 "2015-12-23T23:10:22Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, there is a whole fucking town called Snowflake. Everyone from there is just precious. But, Arizona, you know, all those people are … umm … special.

Snowflake was name after two precious Mormon pioneers, Erastus Snow & William Jordan Flake.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26348 "2015-12-23T23:10:30Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Snowflake, Arizona? Is there an equal and opposite Cactus, Alaska?

Look up the weather for Show Low, which is about twenty miles away and about 750 feet higher than Snowflake (which is itself at around 5600 feet – 300 feet higher than Denver). Right now, they are predicting a “frozen mix” for Show Low over the next few days.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26349 "2015-12-24T18:56:40Z")

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[Trump: Facts are left wing.](http://reverbpress.com/news/watch-trump-accuses-fact-checker/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=sponsored&utm_campaign=bl)

Haven’t we been saying “reality has a well-known liberal bias” (Colbert) for years?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26350 "2015-12-24T19:45:02Z")

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Politifact is, indeed, so left wing that they gave Lie of the Year to Obama in 2013 and the Democratic Party in 2011.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26351 "2015-12-24T22:15:53Z")

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Karl Rove is concerned that President Obama is un-American and soft on ISIS, because in his Christmas message, the President used a holiday greeting in a foreign-sounding language: [Mele Kalikimaka](http://www.salon.com/2015/12/24/karl_rove_obama_wishing_americans_merry_christmas_in_hawaiian_proves_hes_un_american_and_soft_on_isis/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)!

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26352 "2015-12-24T23:02:21Z")

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Well, to Karl Rove, I say, “Meka-leka-hi, meka-hiney-ho”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26353 "2015-12-24T23:23:11Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Karl Rove is concerned that President Obama is un-American and soft on ISIS, because in his Christmas message, the President used a holiday greeting in a foreign-sounding language: [Mele Kalikimaka](http://www.salon.com/2015/12/24/karl_rove_obama_wishing_americans_merry_christmas_in_hawaiian_proves_hes_un_american_and_soft_on_isis/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)!

Hmm. I’m afraid Salon may be misrepresenting what Rove said. Unless he brings the phrase up again in a part of the piece that Salon did not quote (I don’t care to register to get behind the WSJ firewall), Rove did not say that the expression “Mele Kalikimaka” was itself odd or “foreign”; he said that Obama’s NPR comments about ISIS served as an “odd” holiday message.

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26354 "2015-12-24T23:33:18Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Well, to Karl Rove, I say, “Meka-leka-hi, meka-hiney-ho”. 🙂

Pfft. You wish.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26355 "2015-12-24T23:46:38Z")

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Geez, now they don’t even like Der Bingle…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26356 "2015-12-25T00:45:41Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Geez, now they don’t even like Der Bingle…

Well, he _did_ start the War on Christmas with that one song back in '42.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26357 "2015-12-25T04:21:05Z")

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A little _pakalolo_, Handel’s _Messiah_ on the headphones, Christmas spirit, here I come!

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26358 "2015-12-25T08:34:03Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Hmm. I’m afraid Salon may be misrepresenting what Rove said. Unless he brings the phrase up again in a part of the piece that Salon did not quote (I don’t care to register to get behind the WSJ firewall), Rove did not say that the expression “Mele Kalikimaka” was itself odd or “foreign”; he said that Obama’s NPR comments about ISIS served as an “odd” holiday message.

Yes, this is “pants on fire” from _Salon_. In fact, Obama did not even \*say \*“Mele Kalikimaka” anywhere in his [holiday message](https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/12/23/statement-president-persecuted-christians-christmas). Rove was obviously just making a riff on the old Bing Crosby song, since the president is in Hawaii.

But that’s no surprise: \*Salon \*is constantly sliming Sam Harris with lies and gross distortions, so this is just par for the course for them. (Not that I feel any particular sympathy or kinship for Rove, like I do for Harris; but it’s still kind of gross to smear the guy with something he didn’t say for the sake of clicks and shares.)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26359 "2015-12-25T20:43:41Z")

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[The Republicans don’t like the White House Christmas card.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/21/a-very-merry-fox-christmas-obamas-christmas-card-just-isnt-american-enough/)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26360 "2015-12-25T20:49:40Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [The Republicans don’t like the White House Christmas card.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/21/a-very-merry-fox-christmas-obamas-christmas-card-just-isnt-american-enough/)

From 2011.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26361 "2015-12-25T20:50:18Z")

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[Michigan legislature passes a bill, headed for the Governor’s desk, which bans the use of public funds for telling the public what ballot measures mean.](http://news.groopspeak.com/gop-michigan-bill-bans-teaching-public-about-newly-proposed-laws/)

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