# Stupid Republican idea of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897 "2009-03-26T18:48:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26482 "2016-01-04T15:26:46Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Predictably, Obama’s failure to confront rancher Bundy and his band of armed outlaws has emboldened said outlaws, who have now [occupied a federal installation.](http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html) When are we going to properly declare these maniacs terrorists and take them down, hard? FFS.

Let’s just declare them birds.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26483 "2016-01-04T17:46:35Z")

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Tennessee state legislator Andy Holt [wants to know how he can lend his support to the militiamen in Oregon.](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/04/3735731/tennessee-andy-holt-oregon-terrorism/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26484 "2016-01-04T17:47:44Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Tennessee state legislator Andy Holt [wants to know how he can lend his support to the militiamen in Oregon.](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/04/3735731/tennessee-andy-holt-oregon-terrorism/)

Easy – resign, pick up a gun, and go there.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26485 "2016-01-04T17:58:05Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Let’s just declare them birds.

Kind of like when the Catholic church declared the beaver a “fish” so its meat could be eaten on Fridays.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26486 "2016-01-04T17:58:54Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Let’s just declare them birds.

Let me check my Canadian coins …

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26487 "2016-01-04T18:22:51Z")

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[Marco Rubio says](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264627-rubio-obama-has-deliberately-weakened-america) President Obama “has deliberately weakened America” and scares us with the menace of “darker forces” (it’s like they’re not even trying to dog-whistle any more…).

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26488 "2016-01-04T18:30:47Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> [Marco Rubio says](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264627-rubio-obama-has-deliberately-weakened-america) President Obama “has deliberately weakened America” and scares us with the menace of “darker forces” (it’s like they’re not even trying to dog-whistle any more…).

I’d like a cite for this please Senator:

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> “America is in far greater danger today than it was eight years ago,” Rubio said. "Our president thought he could make America like Luxembourg or Switzerland. But he can’t.

I have never heard President Obama express this goal. Nor, I should add, any intent to “deliberately weaken” our country. Why would he do that? Sure, you could say he did things that had that affect, but stating that this was his goal is so batshit crazy that it should disqualify a person from getting elected.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26489 "2016-01-04T18:40:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Marco Rubio]

Not only is Hillary Clinton incompetent, she is a liar. If I am the nominee, voters will be reminded of it time and time again.  
[/QUOTE]

That’s good news for your puppet-masters. Some of them were worried voters might have to hear a debate on the issues.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26490 "2016-01-04T18:53:16Z")

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If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the principles are on your side, its the principle of the thing. If neither in your favor, make shit up.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26491 "2016-01-04T19:35:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Marco Rubio]

Not only is Hillary Clinton incompetent, she is a liar. If I am the nominee, voters will be reminded of it time and time again.  
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Says the guy who rode a lie — that his parents fled Castro — all the way into the US Senate, and had it in his official Senate biography until he was embarrassed into correcting it.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26492 "2016-01-04T20:43:48Z")

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Did they come to the US before Castro took over?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26493 "2016-01-04T20:45:27Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Did they come to the US before Castro took over?

Yes, about three years prior.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26494 "2016-01-04T21:13:48Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> I’d define a terrorist as someone who directly or implicitly threatens harm or causes harm in pursuit of political goals or who is a supporter of a person or persons who do so.

Then pretty much every POTUS is a terrorist.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26495 "2016-01-04T21:18:08Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Yes, about three years prior.

More specifically, almost exactly six months before Castro sailed from Mexico to Cuba in a leaky boat with an “army” of some 80 men.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26496 "2016-01-04T21:49:36Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Let’s just declare them birds.

And then declare them to be ducks … and THEN declare it to be … DUCK season!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26497 "2016-01-04T22:08:35Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> And then declare them to be ducks … and THEN declare it to be … DUCK season!

WABBIT season!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26498 "2016-01-04T22:46:04Z")

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[The text of Cliven Bundy’s lawsuit against the federal government.](http://crooksandliars.com/2016/01/cliven-bundy-sued-obama-defend-donald)

Excerpts:

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> Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen therefore he has no authority to take over peoples (sic) land under imminent (sic) domain
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> Mr. Obama blackmailed and covertly threatened Donald Trump with building code regulation violations, property tax fraud, illegally operating offshore tax havens for betting with Federal indictments unless he shuts up and stops the Birther movement because Mr. obama fears he will be exposed for his covert and sinister ties to Iran’s Hezbollah network.
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> Mr. Obama had me and agent Fletcher perform oral sex on Sunny & Bo in the Oval office why Michelle was turning tricks on Massachusetts & North Capital
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> It gets weirder from there, with mention of “satanic injunctions,” Bill Clinton “cross-dressing in a Burqa,” and Obama selling “Muslim oils at a street vendor stand with a wig mustache.”

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26499 "2016-01-04T22:56:07Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [The text of Cliven Bundy’s lawsuit against the federal government.](http://crooksandliars.com/2016/01/cliven-bundy-sued-obama-defend-donald)

You quoted the text of the story rather than the text of the (never officially filed) lawsuit. You keep quoting paraphrases and descriptions from left wing sites as if they’re verbatim quotations and graven truths.

Please stop making my side look lazy and dumb. Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26500 "2016-01-04T22:59:06Z")

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What the fuck are you talking about? Except for the very last line, which included excerpts from the text, every single thing I quoted was pulled direct from the text of the lawsuit. I also included a link to the text. Or are you too fucking stupid to be able to read?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/26501 "2016-01-04T23:03:05Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> What the fuck are you talking about? Except for the very last line, which included excerpts from the text, every single thing I quoted was pulled direct from the text of the lawsuit. I also included a link to the text. Or are you too fucking stupid to be able to read?

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> The lawsuit, filed by David Rothrock, lists a Pennsylvania prison as a return address. It was apparently sent by Rothrock in his and Bundy’s name. Cliven’s wife, Carol, told the Independent Journal that the family didn’t file the suit.

So, except that Bundy didn’t file the suit, you’re right.

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